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Post by Emig5m on Jan 2, 2022 0:39:38 GMT -5
Well, more likely imo, they've finally decided to be honest about it to the public. And right there lies a major problem....honesty. Can't blame anyone for not trusting someone who continuously lies to you, you'd have to be stupid to do so. But still, if the vaccines actually did anything useful then the vaccinated shouldn't have any fucking worries but the goal post keeps moving further away. So since the vaccines barely do anything but maybe lower the symptoms (how do you even know that they are even doing anything anyway since some un-vaxxed people can have covid without symptoms or very mild symptoms so whose to even say that they do anything?) how about just opening back up full bore like normal and let the scaredy cats sit sealed in their bunkers miserable if they want to and let the non scaredy cats go on about their normal life since this shit is obviously not going anywhere anytime soon and whatever you do seems to never be enough to get to the promised goal post not to mention that the vaccines are total crap and basically pointless because they where rushed. I'm fucking getting sick and tired of the lies, the promises unkept, and the goal posts continuously moving farther and farther away. When the fuck is it ever going to be enough? Get the jab and get back to normal. Can't get back to normal, need a booster. Need a third booster. Need a forth..and so on. Two weeks to slow the spread and here we are two fucking years later with our thumbs crazy glued up our asses. Fuck. |
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Post by sj on Jan 2, 2022 1:02:37 GMT -5
They base its effectiveness on statistics. But statistics can be skewed and they certainly were. The huge financial stakes, wanting to get the vaccine to market and convince more ppl to get it (more shots given = more $'s).
At the start, big pharma companies said the vaccine had 95% efficacy of preventing covid infections. As time went on, the claimed rate gradually lowered. Now they don't even talk about efficacy.. obviously, because vaccinated ppl all over are getting covid.
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Post by sj on Jan 2, 2022 12:55:17 GMT -5
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 2, 2022 18:50:26 GMT -5
*BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!* Atomic Bomb Detonation!
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Post by sj on Jan 3, 2022 10:24:36 GMT -5
*BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!* Atomic Bomb Detonation!
Sad, but true. When people (including the vaccinated) start ignoring the moving goal posts that determine one's vaccination status, mandates, lockdowns, travel bans and such, then the powers that be will declare victory against covid and move on. They'll move on to something else to use as a tool for fear & manipulation. George W had Iraq's WMD's and war. War is usually a go-to for this, as historically, it's pretty effective at getting incumbents re-elected. |
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 3, 2022 23:08:11 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Jan 4, 2022 19:12:50 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Jan 4, 2022 20:12:19 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Jan 5, 2022 10:42:06 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Jan 5, 2022 10:50:18 GMT -5
No shit. Lockdowns can't be done forever. The economy would collapse and people would go insane. Vaccine mandates are a fail also because the virus transmits easily between vaccinated people. They might as well declare a (false) victory and move on now, because the longer they drag this out, the more embarrassing it will get for them. edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/omicron-variant-coronavirus-news-01-04-22/h_b563a607338c0ca3ff13520fa4d5f96eCoronavirus has been with humanity since prehistory. It's the height of human arrogance to think we can use a brand new/experimental vaccine technology to wipe it out once & for all. |
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 5, 2022 14:42:00 GMT -5
No shit. Lockdowns can't be done forever. The economy would collapse and people would go insane. Vaccine mandates are a fail also because the virus transmits easily between vaccinated people. They might as well declare a (false) victory and move on now, because the longer they drag this out, the more embarrassing it will get for them. edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/omicron-variant-coronavirus-news-01-04-22/h_b563a607338c0ca3ff13520fa4d5f96eCoronavirus has been with humanity since prehistory. It's the height of human arrogance to think we can use a brand new/experimental vaccine technology to wipe it out once & for all. Corona Virus be like... Suck my dick humans!  |
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 5, 2022 15:52:51 GMT -5
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 6, 2022 20:39:21 GMT -5
It all boils down to this: |
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Post by Cop on Jan 7, 2022 4:56:32 GMT -5
It all boils down to this: I didn't watch the whole video after I found out what it was going to be about, but I'm wondering what all the people complaining about the vaccines and the restrictions actually want? That the government does nothing? That nobody does anything and we just let the virus and the pandemic run its course? If we have a solution, that partially works and not as long as hoped, shouldn't we at least give it a try? They always said developing a vaccine takes years but we cut down on development time because it was so urgently needed. So while it keeps people from outright dying most of the time, it isn't perfected (yet), but what's the alternative? The world just about stopped functioning completely when it first hit and people were actually dying in droves. Don't they remember the toilet paper wars of 2020? That would become the case for every product if production/transportation had to shut down because too many people died or got too sick to function... |
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 7, 2022 11:58:13 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 7, 2022 16:43:20 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 7, 2022 19:03:58 GMT -5
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 7, 2022 19:59:23 GMT -5
Stop lying to people, ruining their lives, and stop with the never ending moving of the goal post. Also just a FYI, people has also died from the vaccine so you're even taking a risk by taking it. How trustworthy can something be if you can't even legally sue them if something goes wrong from them? A burglar can you sue you here if they get hurt while breaking into your house but you can't sue the vaccine makers if something goes wrong... let that sink in and marinate for a moment. That's telling in itself.  |
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 8, 2022 0:16:27 GMT -5
Wow....can't believe how bad it is here...
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 8, 2022 0:19:32 GMT -5
This Bannon employee is blaming antifa and BLM saying he is glad he never got vaxxed and isn't afraid and is blocking anyone who asks why he is in the hospital if he isn't afraid lol
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Post by Cop on Jan 8, 2022 5:55:56 GMT -5
Also just a FYI, people has also died from the vaccine so you're even taking a risk by taking it.
I'd certainly like to see those stats next to eachother: Covid deaths vs Covid vaccin related deaths. I wonder who's taking the most risk... |
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 8, 2022 14:16:32 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 8, 2022 18:59:53 GMT -5
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 8, 2022 21:07:18 GMT -5
Also just a FYI, people has also died from the vaccine so you're even taking a risk by taking it.
I'd certainly like to see those stats next to eachother: Covid deaths vs Covid vaccin related deaths. I wonder who's taking the most risk... They're hiding the data, this is from a hearing in DC so it's impossible ATM to get correct stats: www.facebook.com/watch/?v=599936761069420 |
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 8, 2022 21:47:21 GMT -5
Not sure what kind of conference that is but the fake crying is a nice touch. Ofc they think Fauci is the devil and blaming him for people dying when he is just trying to manage a pandemic best he can. She is saying people killed themselves over the vaccine, not sure if that is true but people have killed themselves from COVID: www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/03/22/979929592/texas-roadhouse-founder-kent-taylor-dies-after-struggle-with-post-covid-19-symptNo doubt some people have a terrible reaction to the vax but you have a far higher chance of having a terrible reaction to COVID, so many stories of anti-vaxxers finally breaking down and begging for the vax in the hospital when it is too late. Its interesting to me she is asking about the government helping when the same right wingers who hate the vax also hate the government and say universal healthcare is "socialism". Why isn't she pulling herself up by her bootstraps and helping herself? |
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Post by sj on Jan 8, 2022 23:11:05 GMT -5
I wasn't going to get the vax because it's experimental and they skipped the normal clinical trials period. Also, I already had covid about two months before anybody in our country knew about it (even before the vax was in development), during the period that CCP was still trying to cover it up. The idea floated by the media that you don't acquire immunity/antibodies from covid recovery was bullshit from the start. Not sure why they'd spread that lie, except maybe to help the big pharma companies make more profits. It's a nasty virus though. I was sick for 3-4 weeks with it. A couple of days were really bad w/ difficult breathing. I didn't go the hospital. But I was lucky as I had been doing a lot of cardio exercise, not obese and good lung capacity. The co-morbidity of covid-19 is thought to be very high. So if you have underlining health issues (obesity, immunocompromised, smoker, etc) or you're over 60 y/o, the risk/benefit would be in favor of going ahead & getting the jab. btw, they say blood clots issue is only a concern with the J&J vaccine or actually catching Covid. www.dmu.edu/blog/2021/09/ask-an-expert-does-the-covid-19-vaccine-cause-blood-clots/ |
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 10, 2022 16:40:22 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Jan 10, 2022 17:15:10 GMT -5
FDA wants covid patients prioritized by race & ethnicity.
Does the FDA not know science? Why do we have to wait 75 years, after we're all dead & buried, to see vaccine data?
They definitely know progressive politics.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 10, 2022 18:36:05 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 10, 2022 18:50:50 GMT -5
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