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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 15:48:36 GMT -5
Lol.... I want to see the look on peoples faces when he gets reelected in 2020. Seems like the dems are just digging the hole deeper. Bottom line is that most people want freedom and prosperity. The leftist PC crowd has gotten out of hand trying to tell people what they can say. In Canada, they passed a law that says the use of gender pronouns (he/she) is discriminatory and creates an "unsafe space" around transgenders. That's what this guy has been fighting against (leftist political attacks on free speech). If the left keeps up this sort of agenda in the U.S., they should expect to lose more elections. |
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Post by ForRealTho on May 24, 2018 16:41:17 GMT -5
Bottom line is that most people want freedom and prosperity. The leftist PC crowd has gotten out of hand trying to tell people what they can say. In Canada, they passed a law that says the use of gender pronouns (he/she) is discriminatory and creates an "unsafe space" around transgenders. That's what this guy has been fighting against (leftist political attacks on free speech). If the left keeps up this sort of agenda in the U.S., they should expect to lose more elections. The transgender thing is just a wedge issue and totally irrelevant, laws in Canada are irrelevant to your average American and will very exactly zero impact on your life. 10 years ago you we were arguing about gays and it was also 100% irrelevant. Gay rights/marriage has no no effect on anyone's life. These silly wedge issues like transgender stuff are no different then people in the 1960s being angry it was become socially unacceptable to yell nigger in black peoples faces. It is a smoke screen for a different agenda: "If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you." - LBJ What we have seen since the 1980s is a massive transfer of wealth and from bottom to top and a complete stagnation of wages for every group besides the richest of the rich: slate.com/business/2018/05/forget-the-atlantics-9-9-percent-the-1-percent-are-still-the-problem.htmlTHAT will actually have an effect on your life unless you are one of the elite few. The "us vs them" transgender issue is just a smoke screen in order to have an "enemy" to fight while your pockets are being emptied. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 20:07:51 GMT -5
Many ppl would say that's conspiracy theory. But one that's likely to be true imo, because... history and human nature. Plenty of examples exist (not political commentary mind you, because it's hush hush in the elite-controlled media... rather, I mean examples in actual laws and happenings in the world economy). Equality of opportunity (note: i'm not saying equality of outcomes) is an issue that both Dems and Pubs should be on the same side. For Democrats, the reasons are obvious. For Republicans, it's because they (Pubs) are pro free markets & pro competition. The elites are not. The Diamond industry is a perfect example of this. physics.stackexchange.com/questions/88302/are-synthetically-produced-diamonds-as-hard-as-natural-diamonds |
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Post by ForRealTho on May 24, 2018 23:02:06 GMT -5
Many ppl would say that's conspiracy theory. But one that's likely to be true imo, because... history and human nature. Plenty of examples exist (not political commentary mind you, because it's hush hush in the elite-controlled media... rather, I mean examples in actual laws and happenings in the world economy). Divide and conquer. The English were great at this when they had their empire: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_ruleHave people argue about this itty bitty group of transgender people and maybe they won't notice how banks and corporations are making absolute insane profits while your average worker has had flat wages for 30 years and they can't afford to go to the doctor. Equality of opportunity (note: i'm not saying equality of outcomes) is an issue that both Dems and Pubs should be on the same side. For Democrats, the reasons are obvious. For Republicans, it's because they (Pubs) are pro free markets & pro competition. The elites are not. The Diamond industry is a perfect example of this. Thing about "the elites" is what does that mean. I have seen people say Trumps election was about sticking it to the elite but trump is the very dictionary definition of elite. Silver spoon trust fund kid who went to Wharton and lives in Manhattan and somehow he represents the common man? How? It couldn't make less sense if you tried to make it make less sense. People have also said the election was about sticking it to college kids...........why in the world would any adult person give a crap what some 20 year old college kid says or does? Is some kid surviving on Top Ramen making $8 an hour at some shitty student job "elite"? Also people have said its about college professors. Again how is some college prof many who make $40-60k a year "elite" but billionaire businessmen who have never had a hard days work in their entire life not "elite"? |
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Post by Ronhel on May 25, 2018 6:32:38 GMT -5
  Fascist? yes I think so just my opinion |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 10:15:09 GMT -5
Many ppl would say that's conspiracy theory. But one that's likely to be true imo, because... history and human nature. Plenty of examples exist (not political commentary mind you, because it's hush hush in the elite-controlled media... rather, I mean examples in actual laws and happenings in the world economy). Divide and conquer. The English were great at this when they had their empire: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_ruleHave people argue about this itty bitty group of transgender people and maybe they won't notice how banks and corporations are making absolute insane profits while your average worker has had flat wages for 30 years and they can't afford to go to the doctor. Equality of opportunity (note: i'm not saying equality of outcomes) is an issue that both Dems and Pubs should be on the same side. For Democrats, the reasons are obvious. For Republicans, it's because they (Pubs) are pro free markets & pro competition. The elites are not. The Diamond industry is a perfect example of this. Thing about "the elites" is what does that mean. I have seen people say Trumps election was about sticking it to the elite but trump is the very dictionary definition of elite. Silver spoon trust fund kid who went to Wharton and lives in Manhattan and somehow he represents the common man? How? It couldn't make less sense if you tried to make it make less sense. People have also said the election was about sticking it to college kids...........why in the world would any adult person give a crap what some 20 year old college kid says or does? Is some kid surviving on Top Ramen making $8 an hour at some shitty student job "elite"? Also people have said its about college professors. Again how is some college prof many who make $40-60k a year "elite" but billionaire businessmen who have never had a hard days work in their entire life not "elite"? Trump is an elite because he's in the top 1 percent. But people know where he came from, so most ppl are informed enough about his background to know he's not a Nazi, nor did he rise to power through the Illuminati. Did a quick google search to find the stance of the last pres and current one, to see how they stand on the transgender issue, and how they might play a role in the conspiracy (of using Transgenders as a smokescreen to distract us from more important issues). www.politico.com/story/2016/05/obama-administration-title-ix-transgender-student-rights-223149www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-1487784640-htmlstory.html |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 10:29:33 GMT -5
Regardless of his classification as an elite, he generally goes against the flow of the powers that be and pisses off both sides, Republicans and Democrats. It's difficult to argue that he doesn't support America and American workers when he pushes steel tariffs and an anti-NAFTA agenda. He's definitely more anti-Globalist/anti-new world order than the past several presidents. And you know, it does seem like the people who voted for him are actually getting what they voted for to a degree, which is a strange thing. Usually, politicians dole out campaign promises and then flop on those promises. www.wsj.com/articles/trump-postpones-steel-tariff-decision-for-eu-other-u-s-allies-1525130978 |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 10:46:03 GMT -5
Many ppl would say that's conspiracy theory. But one that's likely to be true imo, because... history and human nature. Plenty of examples exist (not political commentary mind you, because it's hush hush in the elite-controlled media... rather, I mean examples in actual laws and happenings in the world economy). Divide and conquer. The English were great at this when they had their empire: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_ruleHave people argue about this itty bitty group of transgender people and maybe they won't notice how banks and corporations are making absolute insane profits while your average worker has had flat wages for 30 years and they can't afford to go to the doctor. Equality of opportunity (note: i'm not saying equality of outcomes) is an issue that both Dems and Pubs should be on the same side. For Democrats, the reasons are obvious. For Republicans, it's because they (Pubs) are pro free markets & pro competition. The elites are not. The Diamond industry is a perfect example of this. Thing about "the elites" is what does that mean. I have seen people say Trumps election was about sticking it to the elite but trump is the very dictionary definition of elite. Silver spoon trust fund kid who went to Wharton and lives in Manhattan and somehow he represents the common man? How? It couldn't make less sense if you tried to make it make less sense. People have also said the election was about sticking it to college kids...........why in the world would any adult person give a crap what some 20 year old college kid says or does? Is some kid surviving on Top Ramen making $8 an hour at some shitty student job "elite"? Also people have said its about college professors. Again how is some college prof many who make $40-60k a year "elite" but billionaire businessmen who have never had a hard days work in their entire life not "elite"? Basically, his supporters accepted his elite status due to him taking far less campaign monies from outside donors and super-PACs. i.e. they viewed him as less corrupt and less likely to owe political favors, compared to Hillary. www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/campaign-finance/?noredirect=on |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 11:40:08 GMT -5
Fascist? yes I think so just my opinion Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I might wake up to your revelation when WWIII breaks out.  Don't get me wrong. I understand why many people think Trump's a bigot and I acknowledge that possibility, based on his stance on immigration and such. However, racist bigotry is a trait (not the complete blanket definition) of a Nazi. To be fair though, most people are bigoted to varying degrees. People are always judging each other, assessing one another's place in the social heirarchy, and often unfairly. But that's a whole topic/discussion in itself. |
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Post by ForRealTho on May 25, 2018 21:05:24 GMT -5
Funny you linked Jordan Peterson above and I see he had a reddit AMA today. I love this top question he didn't answer: old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8m21kw/i_am_dr_jordan_b_peterson_u_of_t_professor/ I guess at the end of the day he is just another hack that is going to blame every single social problem on a "lack of Jesus" when if you look at the history of Western Civilization over the last 2,000 years there is nothing but drama and conflict and a whole lotta Jesus. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 10:00:56 GMT -5
Funny you linked Jordan Peterson above and I see he had a reddit AMA today. I love this top question he didn't answer: old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8m21kw/i_am_dr_jordan_b_peterson_u_of_t_professor/ I guess at the end of the day he is just another hack that is going to blame every single social problem on a "lack of Jesus" when if you look at the history of Western Civilization over the last 2,000 years there is nothing but drama and conflict and a whole lotta Jesus. He's evidently achieved celebrity status. There appear to be plenty (dozens, perhaps) of other questions he didn't answer. No doubt his time is limited. Dr. Peterson probably is a Christian, because he's certainly conservative. Personally, I wouldn't have guessed he's that dogmatic about religion. I've watched a few of his videos this week and only seen him use "Jeebus" or "Gawd" in the context of cursing or venting frustration. Never seen him preaching that people should find Jesus. Can't say for certain he hasn't though... I've only watched his videos where he discusses politics. Yeah, we westerners have had it so bad. Such a lack of freedom and prosperity. Eastern civilization and communist atheist regimes (Stalin, Mao) have been so peaceful and prosperous. Why aren't we emulating them... /kidding Joking aside, the idea that Nazism was inspired from atheist teachings isn't new or something Peterson came up with. "Nichism" and its teachings - God is dead, Übermensch, etc. is a common topic in university philosophy courses. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9CbermenschI'm just surprised that nobody in the comments knew about this or failed to mention it. Regarding Hitler and the Nazi party, no doubt he used religion to manipulate a population that was predominantly religious. What politician or dictator, even today, doesn't do that? If you doubt that, guess what... Obama and Clinton believes in Jesus too, going by their own words. And so the hell what if they actually do... that is their freedom and right. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 10:55:41 GMT -5
If we could abolish all religion in the world, conflict would continue. Nationalism or something else would be used (by governments and tyrants) in its place to manipulate people into fighting and supporting wars.
I've read there's actually a warrior gene that makes some people more prone to fighting/aggression. Also, chimps war with each other. As do orangutans. These species don't need religion or country to fight. Humans descended from ape-like ancestors who would've had similar genes. Science. lol
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Post by ForRealTho on May 26, 2018 12:06:50 GMT -5
If we could abolish all religion in the world, conflict would continue. Nationalism or something else would be used (by governments and tyrants) in its place to manipulate people into fighting and supporting wars. I've read there's actually a warrior gene that makes some people more prone to fighting/aggression. Also, chimps war with each other. As do orangutans. These species don't need religion or country to fight. Humans descended from ape-like ancestors who would've had similar genes. Science. lol True people love their violence and that will never change but "more Christianity" isn't the solution to anything. It just a giant scam for tax free money anymore. The USA is behind Europe but general follows the same trends. In Ireland in the 1970s-80s it was completely unthinkable people would go against the Catholic church and they didn't even have divorce till the 90s. Then they went and voted for divorce, gay marriage, and last night abortion: www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/26/abortion-referendum-likely-to-put-pressure-on-northern-ireland-politicians#img-1Its going to take 20 more years probably for the US to do the same thing hopefully. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 12:54:14 GMT -5
I never said it was the fix. I just support peoples' right to believe whatever they choose.
I don't agree with assertions that religion is the root of war/s. Large-scale wars didn't come about until the advent of kings, authoritarian rule, and big government. And it's not western religion or civilization that was the primer for large-scale war. Powerful authoritarian rule and civilization existed in the east thousands of years earlier. They had many large-scale wars in Asia (mostly, in what's now China) thousands of years before western civilization, and most white people at that point in human history were either tribal or living like cavemen. Also, when you consider peoples who (at one time) lacked authoritarian rule and government, such as Native American Indians and Aboriginal Australians, they had no concept of large-scale war. But I'm pretty sure they had religion.
But I do agree with your last argument. Religion (as an institution) is more often than not a con used to exploit people (usually for purposes of gaining power and money). Interestingly enough, you could argue that Jesus himself agreed with that because he warned people about false churches/false religious teachers.
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Post by ForRealTho on May 26, 2018 13:26:31 GMT -5
But I do agree with your last argument. Religion (as an institution) is more often than not a con used to exploit people (usually for purposes of gaining power and money). Interestingly enough, you could argue that Jesus himself agreed with that because he warned people about false churches/false religious teachers. Yes if your average church going American had Jesus show up at their church on a Sunday they would just toss him out for being a dirty homeless hippy. |
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Post by Ronhel on May 26, 2018 13:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 13:36:01 GMT -5
But I do agree with your last argument. Religion (as an institution) is more often than not a con used to exploit people (usually for purposes of gaining power and money). Interestingly enough, you could argue that Jesus himself agreed with that because he warned people about false churches/false religious teachers. Yes if your average church going American had Jesus show up at their church on a Sunday they would just toss him out for being a dirty homeless hippy. I could definitely see that, hypothetically speaking. He didn't have or want money, and many churches (pastors and congregations are uppity). The last church I went to (with my former gf), the pastor often preached about the virtures of people working longer hours and giving more to the church. Funny he never mentioned all those scriptures about not being able to buy your way into heaven through good works. hehe |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 16:03:07 GMT -5
If we could abolish all religion in the world, conflict would continue. Nationalism or something else would be used (by governments and tyrants) in its place to manipulate people into fighting and supporting wars. I've read there's actually a warrior gene that makes some people more prone to fighting/aggression. Also, chimps war with each other. As do orangutans. These species don't need religion or country to fight. Humans descended from ape-like ancestors who would've had similar genes. Science. lol True people love their violence and that will never change but "more Christianity" isn't the solution to anything. It just a giant scam for tax free money anymore. The USA is behind Europe but general follows the same trends. In Ireland in the 1970s-80s it was completely unthinkable people would go against the Catholic church and they didn't even have divorce till the 90s. Then they went and voted for divorce, gay marriage, and last night abortion: www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/26/abortion-referendum-likely-to-put-pressure-on-northern-ireland-politicians#img-1Its going to take 20 more years probably for the US to do the same thing hopefully. I doubt they'll ever let us vote directly on those sort of issues here in the U.S. We'll continue to vote for politicians who, in turn, appoint the judges who decide these things for us. US already has abortion on demand. Roe v Wade, remember? And divorce. If one person in the marriage wants to file divorce, there's nothing stopping them. Gay marriage has been one state at a time. What it'll probably take for that to become a protected right under federal law is the Democrats gaining a majority in all 3 branches of govt. imo, these are feel good issues for the social justice types and won't have any real meaningful impact on the nation's prosperity. I think the guy in this vid below understands the true hurdles to long-term prosperity and well-being of people in the US. With increasing automation, software, AI, etc. - jobs will continue to disappear. We'll need to restructure our economy around that. Our economy is consumer based. What happens when the jobs are gone and they lose consumers, because ppl no longer have work. Everybody's screwed, except the .1 of 1%... |
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Post by ForRealTho on May 26, 2018 16:06:00 GMT -5
I doubt they'll ever let us vote directly on those sort of issues here in the U.S. We'll continue to vote for politicians who, in turn, appoint the judges who decide these things for us. US already has abortion on demand. Roe v Wade, remember? And divorce. If one person in the marriage wants to file divorce, there's nothing stopping them. Gay marriage has been one state at a time. I just reread what I wrote and it wasn't clear at all lol. What I meant is Ireland used to be all church politics all the time and now they don't give a crap at all. Here in the USA it is all Jesus all the time. Hopefully in another 20 years that will go away and it won't matter. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 16:39:11 GMT -5
I doubt they'll ever let us vote directly on those sort of issues here in the U.S. We'll continue to vote for politicians who, in turn, appoint the judges who decide these things for us. US already has abortion on demand. Roe v Wade, remember? And divorce. If one person in the marriage wants to file divorce, there's nothing stopping them. Gay marriage has been one state at a time. I just reread what I wrote and it wasn't clear at all lol. What I meant is Ireland used to be all church politics all the time and now they don't give a crap at all. Here in the USA it is all Jesus all the time. Hopefully in another 20 years that will go away and it won't matter. No offense, but you're dreaming. The influence of the Catholic church is likely to increase over the coming decades as the population of latinos continues to rapidly outpace all others. Ironically, that has much to do with Democrat's stance on immigration. Eventually, perhaps in as little 2 to 3 decades, the US will be another latin country and probably have many of the same problems, like insane wealth disparity (far worse than we have now). If you have kids, better make sure they're able to speak some spanish. |
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Post by ForRealTho on May 26, 2018 16:45:08 GMT -5
\No offense, but you're dreaming. The influence of the Catholic church is likely to increase over the coming decades as the population of latinos continues to rapidly outpace all others. Ironically, that has much to do with Democrat's stance on immigration. Eventually, perhaps in as little 2 to 3 decades, the US will be another latin country and probably have many of the same problems, like insane wealth disparity (far worse than we have now). If you have kids, better make sure they're able to speak some spanish. We shall see but religion is dying in the west even among Latinos. They aren't some mono-cultural borg or something lol. Two of my best friends growing up were full Mexican and they didn't give a shit about religion at all. www.pewforum.org/2014/05/07/the-shifting-religious-identity-of-latinos-in-the-united-states/ |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 16:56:51 GMT -5
\No offense, but you're dreaming. The influence of the Catholic church is likely to increase over the coming decades as the population of latinos continues to rapidly outpace all others. Ironically, that has much to do with Democrat's stance on immigration. Eventually, perhaps in as little 2 to 3 decades, the US will be another latin country and probably have many of the same problems, like insane wealth disparity (far worse than we have now). If you have kids, better make sure they're able to speak some spanish. We shall see but religion is dying in the west even among Latinos. They aren't so mono-cultural borg or something lol. Two of my best friends growing up were full Mexican and they didn't give a shit about religion at all. www.pewforum.org/2014/05/07/the-shifting-religious-identity-of-latinos-in-the-united-states/Have you ever wondered why? My theory is that religion gradually decreases in a population as long as the economy does well - and materialism & consumerism rule the day. Maintaining a growing economy and jobs is the greatest challenge. Without that, people turn away from decadent lifestyles and back to religion. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 12:31:41 GMT -5
Some interesting comparisons to the Roman Empire (from the "7 signs" vid above). One thing they didn't talk about is the Roman Empire's treatment of Christians (in the Empire's final years). They didn't just reject Christians & Jesus, they persecuted & executed them. But alas, even those desperate & barbaric measures did not prevent the fall of their glorious empire. lol
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 12:46:15 GMT -5
It's recurring theme throughout history, the more a state fights and violently oppresses an ideology or religion, the more that ideology or religion spreads like wildfire. It's still happening today even. Christianity is spreading fastest in China, where the commie govt oppresses religious freedom by jailing citizens and burning down churches. Most of their churches are underground/private because of this. Indeed, it's a little known fact, because the state controls the media in China. The only reason I know about it is because I've been told this from 1st hand accounts of Chinese ppl who used to live in China.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 13:48:31 GMT -5
Many ppl would say that's conspiracy theory. But one that's likely to be true imo, because... history and human nature. Plenty of examples exist (not political commentary mind you, because it's hush hush in the elite-controlled media... rather, I mean examples in actual laws and happenings in the world economy). Divide and conquer. The English were great at this when they had their empire: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_ruleHave people argue about this itty bitty group of transgender people and maybe they won't notice how banks and corporations are making absolute insane profits while your average worker has had flat wages for 30 years and they can't afford to go to the doctor. Equality of opportunity (note: i'm not saying equality of outcomes) is an issue that both Dems and Pubs should be on the same side. For Democrats, the reasons are obvious. For Republicans, it's because they (Pubs) are pro free markets & pro competition. The elites are not. The Diamond industry is a perfect example of this. Thing about "the elites" is what does that mean. I have seen people say Trumps election was about sticking it to the elite but trump is the very dictionary definition of elite. Silver spoon trust fund kid who went to Wharton and lives in Manhattan and somehow he represents the common man? How? It couldn't make less sense if you tried to make it make less sense. People have also said the election was about sticking it to college kids...........why in the world would any adult person give a crap what some 20 year old college kid says or does? Is some kid surviving on Top Ramen making $8 an hour at some shitty student job "elite"? Also people have said its about college professors. Again how is some college prof many who make $40-60k a year "elite" but billionaire businessmen who have never had a hard days work in their entire life not "elite"? There's no denying he's an elite. What drew voters to him is that he totally rejects the modern PC landscape and says whatever the hell he's thinking. Personally, i agree with your side that much of it is manure. My personal opinion is irrelevant as to your question of why. But I had to make that disclaimer so you're aware I'm not defending him. Basically, mainstream America was getting fed-up with the notion of... my right to not be offended > your right to be free They see Trump not as champion of the common man, but a champion of defying modern politics and its empty promise rhetoric. For example, take Obama's promise of campaign finance reform that he totally reneg'd on once elected. Hell, if he would've followed through with that promise, Trump wouldn't have had a leg to stand on (with his "corrupt Hillary" claims) and likely lost the election (because, with proper campaign finance reform, Hillary wouldn't have accepted hundreds of millions $'s more from super-PACs than Trump... that's something voters take serious note of). |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 14:56:56 GMT -5
I gotta say, after the last two days, I'm fcking terrified. >.< The fear was way overblown by media. Don't be a victim of their attempts of using fear to mind control the masses. Our govt has checks & balances. Like i mentioned earlier, even the Republicans in Congress aren't big Trump fans and they're keeping him in check to a greater extent than people realize. Also, Trump actually isn't with Republicans regarding the left's social justice issues (if you hear/read otherwise, it's a lie propagated by left-leaning media). There will be no Federal changes on divorce, abortion, or the ability to use the bathroom of your choice during the Trump presidency. Where Trump differs from both 'Pubs and Dems, is that he wants to undo NAFTA and bring jobs back to America, as well as build a ridiculous wall. Most 'Pubs (the ones with money, businesses, power, and influence anyway) actually don't want the wall because they like the cheap labor.. so no, the wall ain't happening. btw, Clinton and Obama were huge supporters of NAFTA, so they're right there with 'Pubs when it comes to outsourcing American jobs. Please, don't believe the lies that they're somehow champions of the working class. They're elites too and paying back political favors to other elites who donated millions $'s to their campaigns! Social justice issues are constantly harped on and drilled into peoples' minds to distract (dangled like a carrot/something ppl want) from far more important issues, whilst they continue to construct a system that maximizes lining the pockets of the elite. It is curious that Trump is anti-NAFTA while he himself is an elite. In a sense, he's betraying his own kind, which i guess explains why he's hated by both Republicans and Democrats (because most of the politicians, on right and left, are millionaire elites). McCain doesn't want Trump to attend his funeral. www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mccain-doesn-t-want-trump-funeral-friends-tell-white-house-n871641 |
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Post by ForRealTho on May 27, 2018 22:30:32 GMT -5
Building a giant wall would cost billions of dollars and it wouldn't stop anyone from getting into the USA illegally.
I don't buy for one second Trump actually wants to undo NAFTA and bring jobs back to America. He just ran a populist campaign to get himself elected. He doesn't give one fuck about working class people or anyone but himself.
Undoing NAFTA is great in theory but the law of unintended consequences. The trade war/tariff crap he started is a perfect example and had to make concessions right away.
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