|
Post by sj on Feb 28, 2024 19:16:10 GMT -5
One of the comments below the video you posted said that police were escorting people in at one side of the building and, at another side, police and the protesters were clashing. I suppose that explains the conflicting videos.
|
|
|
Post by Emig5m on Feb 28, 2024 23:36:53 GMT -5
We should probably hand over the leadership of the world to the Hamsters. When is the last time that you heard of Hamsters causing chaos, starting wars, and bothering anybody? We can learn a lot from the peacefulness of Hamsters...
|
|
|
Post by sj on Feb 29, 2024 7:23:07 GMT -5
Did Trump start any wars? I know he says mean words that hurt peoples' feels, but it's a fair question.
The only other president, in my lifetime, who didn't start wars was Jimmy Carter. I was a kid back then, but I've read things.
|
|
|
Post by ForRealTho on Feb 29, 2024 9:18:25 GMT -5
Was this guy in the same crowd crushing a policeman? If you decide to be a get away driver in a robbery, and sit in the car, and your friend goes inside and shoots someone, you are still criminally liable even if you never entered the building.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Feb 29, 2024 12:20:18 GMT -5
Was this guy in the same crowd crushing a policeman? If you decide to be a get away driver in a robbery, and sit in the car, and your friend goes inside and shoots someone, you are still criminally liable even if you never entered the building. Doubtful he got a ride from someone who assaulted police, but anything's possible. You'd probably have to be in the courtroom to know that level of detail. We would need to see the list of charges against him to know if he was convicted of accessory to homocide or manslaughter.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Feb 29, 2024 12:24:22 GMT -5
If I walked into a bank and some random stranger was robbing it, I'd be an accomplice? No, unless you can prove I rode there in a car with him.
I totally agree that protesters shouldn't have entered the building. However, if police officers escorted him in, that would have legal implications that could shift blame to police and possibly could've gotten him off the hook. Every court case (in the US, anyway) is different.
Entrapment isn't a new rabbit-hole thing from the far-right. It's been a crime going back long before we were born. The reason it's in the law books - entrapment's a highly manipulative tactic sometimes used by authorities to snag ppl who haven't necessarily committed a crime. If police encouraged and escorted people in, which some of the video suggests is true, the police should be legally culpable for that.. according to existing laws on the books.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Feb 29, 2024 12:55:04 GMT -5
I think that Youtube video you posted (about the police officer sandwiched in doorway) may have lied about him being crushed to death. I read this Factcheck before and it hasn't been updated with news of this police officer having died. www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/It still says six officers died - two of natural causes after the riot and four of suicide.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Feb 29, 2024 13:02:08 GMT -5
Also still says the only shooting was a police officer who shot & killed a female Air Force veteran.
Seems like at least a handful of the protesters would've brought guns if they were truly brainwashed into believing their goal was a government takeover. Trump rallies, from video I've seen, sound & look very cultish though, I'll give you that.
|
|
|
Post by Cop on Feb 29, 2024 13:03:39 GMT -5
We should probably hand over the leadership of the world to the Hamsters. When is the last time that you heard of Hamsters causing chaos, starting wars, and bothering anybody? We can learn a lot from the peacefulness of Hamsters...
I believe they tend to eat at least some of their young... ...a practice most humans seem to have grown out of.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Feb 29, 2024 13:38:54 GMT -5
We should probably hand over the leadership of the world to the Hamsters. When is the last time that you heard of Hamsters causing chaos, starting wars, and bothering anybody? We can learn a lot from the peacefulness of Hamsters...
I believe they tend to eat at least some of their young... ...a practice most humans seem to have grown out of.Outside of the tribes that our ancestors wiped out to get rid of cannabalism, we have social & legal guardrails against it. If society allowed tho, there would probly be some ppl still going for it. Groups of people would no doubt return to it in some post-apocalypse scenarios, mainly due to food scarity but also because of collapse of governments and no police. You're your own leader and provider, at least for a while, post-apocalypse.. until the warlords start consolidating power and you're within their domain.
|
|
|
Post by ForRealTho on Feb 29, 2024 14:59:46 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by sj on Feb 29, 2024 20:38:48 GMT -5
Life in America for young people - early-life crisis.
|
|
|
Post by ForRealTho on Feb 29, 2024 23:59:47 GMT -5
Life in America for young people - early-life crisis. See I don't get how you can post stuff like that, with left wing talking points, then every political video and article you post and political opinion you seem to hold is the Republican party and the right wing as the good guys. Traditional right wing agenda is 1)Cut taxes for the wealthy 2)Limit government programs for the poor/middle class 3)Suppress workers right and wages How is voting for them ever going to change the economic situation?
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 11:16:04 GMT -5
Life in America for young people - early-life crisis. See I don't get how you can post stuff like that, with left wing talking points, then every political video and article you post and political opinion you seem to hold is the Republican party and the right wing as the good guys. Traditional right wing agenda is 1)Cut taxes for the wealthy 2)Limit government programs for the poor/middle class 3)Suppress workers right and wages How is voting for them ever going to change the economic situation? If you haven't noticed, I've been bias checking all the sources I've posted for the last couple of weeks or so. Are you sure it's not just you being very liberal? You described yourself as being "very liberal" a while ago.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 11:19:05 GMT -5
My only complaint about Biden's student loan bailout plan is that it lets the people who made those loans (the banks and govt) off the hook for trillion $ debt and shifts the burden to the working class taxpayer. It's not that I'm opposed to giving younger people a leg up.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 11:24:21 GMT -5
It's another bank bailout, plain and simple. Just about everything Biden does is pro-corporate, and usually to detriment of the working class.
Same thing when rail workers went on strike. Team blue implemented a policy change that somehow forced an end to the strike, without giving rail workers their simple & meager ask (2 days paid sick leave per year). It's quite disgusting that the party that claims to be pro-Union couldn't do that one little thing for them.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 11:34:41 GMT -5
So Biden pissed off all the Union workers and he's pissing off the millions of Muslims living in America by supporting Israel. I have a feeling he's going to have a tough time on election day.
Are Democrats sure they want to stick with him, rather than find & nominate someone who's truer to Democrat (spoken) ideals (in practice) as well as someone who has their head glued on straight?
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 11:41:10 GMT -5
It's not too late. They should swallow their pride and admit someone better is needed, imo.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 12:33:37 GMT -5
He could be right, do you remember Stileproject from back in late 90s/early 2000s? I used to read their forum, there was a change in the way the government counts inflation. I think it was the genesis of "quantitative easing", at the same time some high up government money-man killed himself in his Manhattan apartment. People were freaking out on that forum talking about how this was the beginning of the end of the post-WW2 world order and especially the dollar. That was over 15 years ago. His nickname isn't the "Oracle of Omaha" for nothing. slackercentral.freeforums.net/post/34554ForReal, Pay close attention to what Warren Buffett says (video in the linked post) about what should happen to the banks when they make too many loans that go bad and the bank doesn't have assets in reserve to cover them. Buffet is a leftist billionaire and he's best buds with Gates. They've been seen eating lunch together at McDonalds. You trust those guys, right? You trust them when they say the banks should bear the cost & consequence associated with their own poor decisions? Or do you trust brain-dead Biden more?
|
|
|
Post by ForRealTho on Mar 1, 2024 12:45:31 GMT -5
If you haven't noticed, I've been bias checking all the sources I've posted for the last couple of weeks or so. Are you sure it's not just you being very liberal? You described yourself as being "very liberal" a while ago. I'm working from home right now so you will forgive me for not going back through hundreds of posts showing you specific examples of what I mean but pretty much since Day 1 of this thread it appears that the "bad guys" to you have always been anyone left wing or leftist. Like pretty much every single video and article you post is criticizing the left, never the right, even. Then once and a while you will say things about not liking billionaires or our corporate masters having all the money and power and such..........left wing talking points after endlessly criticizing the left. If I can make an analogy, its like imagine the internet existed in the 1850s, someone constantly criticizing the Northern politicians never the South ever then saying "btw I hate slavery and how it effects working southerners wages"........like the South literally wrote slavery into their constitution when they succeeded yet you don't criticize them at all.....
|
|
|
Post by ForRealTho on Mar 1, 2024 12:48:29 GMT -5
His nickname isn't the "Oracle of Omaha" for nothing. Buffet is a leftist billionaire and he's best buds with Gates. They've been seen eating lunch together at McDonalds. You trust those guys, right? You are saying Buffet is a "leftist" billionaire? Where do you come up with that? Continuing my last post, I have seen you criticize billionaires, is it only the "leftist" ones that bother you? We have talked about this before but how come if you are aren't a conservative I have never ever seen you criticize the Koch network? I posted an entire documentary on those guys and how they have spent hundreds of millions of dollars influencing politics, yet only Gates and apparently now Buffet make you mad. Maybe cuz the right wing stuff you like to read is funded by Koch?
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 12:50:26 GMT -5
I provide examples to back up my points. Try refuting points, rather than slinging accusations.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 12:55:19 GMT -5
I've never posted anything by Koch or funded by Koch to back up any point.
Just listen to yourself. What next.. are you going to say the Buffet interviews were funded by Koch? lol
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 12:59:08 GMT -5
Stay focused and on topic, dude. Do you agree with Buffet on the issue of bank loans or would you rather derail to unsubstantiated accusations again?
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 13:06:56 GMT -5
What media outlets are own by Koch and which have I cited? If you can't answer, your accusations are unsubstantiated and this argument is over.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 13:15:26 GMT -5
Buffet supported Clinton, Obama, Bernie Sanders campaigns with generous contributions and he's a vocal critic of Trump. I think it's fair to say he leans left. I never said he's left on every single policy issue, but overall, he's on the left.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 13:20:00 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 13:34:46 GMT -5
Realize that both major parties in America are two sides of one coin - both are pro-corporate. If u lean too far right or left, then you buy into one side's rhetoric and believe it.
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 13:45:02 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by sj on Mar 1, 2024 14:01:46 GMT -5
Musk views AI as an existential threat to humanity and he sees how rapidly Altman is helping to advance AI.
Musk said the main reason he's pursuing neuralink is so that humans could keep up with AI and not become obsolete. Not sure why he doesn't see that that's something AI could eventually exploit, just like in the Matrix movies.
Something that most of the Scifi shows miss is that there would be mulitple AI's, competing against each other, not just humans. Some AI's might even ally themselves with humans. Maybe that's what Musk is hoping for in regards to Neuralink.
|
|