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Post by ForRealTho on Feb 11, 2020 16:46:22 GMT -5
You don't have to be a "women hater" to make factual observations in your own relationships or those of countless others, found in videos and articles. I get it. You're using shaming tactics/labels (Nazis, women haters, etc) to scare people back to your side, because that's one of the left's primary tools in promoting their ideologies. I've been in enough relationships and have seen the crazy & decietful things women say & do. So in my experience, the red pill (in regards to women & dating, not politics) is real. So the labels don't work on me. But as I said before, you first (take the plunge and wife up yourself). lol Dunno if you didn't know but /r/mgtow was recently quarantined on reddit. www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ewp86o/rmgtow_has_been_quarantined/A rational question is if women are so awful, why not just date men? After all it is 2020, in some circles gay is kinda cruise control for cool. One of the /r/mgtow mods "We don't promote degeneracy here" Degeneracy is a straight up neo-nazi/alt-right word. Its not even a dogwhistle at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 17:06:09 GMT -5
You don't have to be a "women hater" to make factual observations in your own relationships or those of countless others, found in videos and articles. I get it. You're using shaming tactics/labels (Nazis, women haters, etc) to scare people back to your side, because that's one of the left's primary tools in promoting their ideologies. I've been in enough relationships and have seen the crazy & decietful things women say & do. So in my experience, the red pill (in regards to women & dating, not politics) is real. So the labels don't work on me. But as I said before, you first (take the plunge and wife up yourself). lol Dunno if you didn't know but /r/mgtow was recently quarantined on reddit. www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ewp86o/rmgtow_has_been_quarantined/A rational question is if women are so awful, why not just date men? After all it is 2020, in some circles gay is kinda cruise control for cool. One of the /r/mgtow mods "We don't promote degeneracy here" Degeneracy is a straight up neo-nazi/alt-right word. Its not even a dogwhistle at this point. I heard about that. I don't use reddit though. That's reddit's choice. Mgtow's will post their content on other platforms, or create their own platforms. Certainly, I understand the advantages of choosing to be gay (as a way around the gender biases of the draconian family court system, etc). I'm not attracted to men though, so it doesn't work for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 17:17:40 GMT -5
There was a UK study (I posted the link a couple of times in these forums) comparing lesbian married couples and gay married couples.
Lesbian couples divorced at about the same rate as straight couples (it was in line with the stats that women initiate 70% of divorces). The gay couples divorced at a much lower rate. So yeah, you could certainly argue that gay men are ahead of the curve, at least in terms of figuring out the type of relationships that endure the longest and being more mutually financially beneficial.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 17:33:58 GMT -5
A rational question is if women are so awful, why not just date men? I'm not a proponent of AWALT ("all women are like that"). That's an absolute and absolutes seldom hold true regarding people. I've dated a few good women. However, they were less attractive and a little heavier than I prefer. I met these women online and, of course, you don't really know a person's true level of attractiveness until you meet them in person. The red pill theory I tend to agree with about attractive/fit women is that they're aware of their own SMV and so they feel freer to disrespect men, knowing how easily they can be replaced (because of countless men's "thirst" for attractive women in today's society). Further, obesity rates are much higher in women than men these days (in the U.S.), so it's more difficult for men to find attractive/fit women than vice versa. I see evidence for this and perhaps the root cause when I go outside... most days when I go to the park (in very safe, affluent areas, low/no crime), I see lots of dudes and relatively few women walking/running at the park.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 16:56:53 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/utah-senate-votes-unanimously-to-decriminalize-polygamy/ar-BB100Rt8Polygamy, bestiality, acceptance of pedos are on the rise. I predicted this in a reply to the Wolfeman (on the old forums) many moons ago. If Wolfy were here and debating me on this, I'd tell him to go "bark at the moon!" Admittedly, one thing I didn't predict was parents & schools encouraging young kids (including prepubescent kids, sometimes 8yr or younger) to be transgendered and/or pick their own gender. There are parents who have doctors administer hormone therapy to try and alter their kid's (birth) gender. I'm surprised that's legal, because they've never done experimental testing to determine if there are long-term health risks. I mean, afterall, kids under 21 aren't allowed to smoke (smoking age got raised to 21 in some states recently) or drink, so there's your precedent for the govt/state intervening to protect the health of minors.. MGTOW got banned on reddit. However, the Thot Olympics are still going strong! https://www.reddit.com/r/tiktokthots/comments/eyg460/olympic_gold_medalist_thot_mckayla_maroney_is_back/
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 13:38:09 GMT -5
I've experimented with dating foreign women, including women from Communist countries (China, Vietnam). I found that they're generally interested in the same type of men and mostly use the same mating strategies (hypergamous and vet men by trying to figure out their earnings or earnings potential), as many western women also do. Based on my experience tho, the Chinese women were the most interested in money. The irony. Point being, the system of govt in women's home countries isn't something that guides their mating strategies.
Actually, Chinese men have it the worst, due to men significantly outnumbering women in their country (thanks to China govt policy limiting the number of children each woman can have, which leads to most electing to have male children only). In China, there's simply not enough women to go around for millions of men.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 17:13:38 GMT -5
"She loves what you do for her..." This movie is thinly veiled red pill.
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Post by Cop on Feb 21, 2020 13:35:00 GMT -5
SJ, I think you spend way too much time with that kind of stuff. Not that I've watched any of the videos (no time and no interest really) but just going by the thumbnails and the titles I can't even believe how many videos there are on these subjects. Guess there must be a lot of frustrated people around...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 19:02:27 GMT -5
SJ, I think you spend way too much time with that kind of stuff. Not that I've watched any of the videos (no time and no interest really) but just going by the thumbnails and the titles I can't even believe how many videos there are on these subjects. Guess there must be a lot of frustrated people around... Duly noted. I didn't watch all of the videos from start to finish. I'd watch maybe 5 minutes or at 2x speed if I found it interesting enough to watch the whole video. For me, these videos were for entertainment. Coach Greg Adams is a funny guy and comes up with new stuff nearly every video, like "Victoria Secretions" in the last one. lol You're right about there being a lot of frustrated people out there (really both men and women). Many of the women on online dating sites seemed frazzled and desperate. I haven't visited such sites in years, so it could be even worse now with more & more people waiting 'til they're old/middle-aged before considering marriage or avoiding marriage entirely. Even that Euro chick (Ava Brighton) doing these sort of videos is frustrated, because her partner got completely reemed in a previous divorce and ex-wife took his home & sole custody of his kids. I'm betting he's scared off of marriage and this frustrates Ava.
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Post by Emig5m on Feb 24, 2020 12:50:19 GMT -5
There's a lot of truth to those videos and there's a lot of valid points being made and information why things are like they are now. I do notice that my grand parents generation and back people seemed to remain happily married from the start and for the long haul and my generation I'm honestly trying to think of even one person that's stayed married from their first marriage for the long haul. Actually I just thought of one single couple that I know, but then there's like 20 other couples that I know to that one who has been through multiple marriages, has kids with multiple people, etc. It's ridiculous. I myself was the target to some of these bitches from multiple marriages and kids from multiple partners looking for a meal ticket hitting me up. So funny when I showed no interest how I would even be unfriended on Facebook from them, LMAO. But oh when I was posting pics of my $37,000 Camaros, $15,000 jet skis, $16,000 home theater systems, oh boy did they want to be friends and chit chat nonstop even texting me all day at work, LOL. One girl I know called me up totally on the whim when she broke up with her husband and asked if I wanted to just up and move in with her from Jersey to all the way to Florida "because she knows that I'm a go-getter" and I'm like just stunned in disbelief. I'm just going to up and leave my stable job that I've been at since 2003 and go cold turkey with some woman with multiple kids from multiple guys and take care of them with a place big enough in a state 11hrs away from where I live with no job prospects and potentially be broke within a few months from all those costs and liabilities. Fucking makes total sense. What was in it again for me? I kinda missed that part, LMAO.
All the info about the online dating sites, monkey branching, and everything else is spot on accurate. My one friend had his first wife leave him and he had to pay child support on two kids and she was super bitter and wouldn't let him ever see the kids and told me that over the years that he had basically bought her an entire new house with all the payments and everything (over 400k). His next wife everything seems to be going OK, has more kids, and then she monkey branches off to her coworker probably because he was higher on the income level and again, there's kids involved but she is being good from what I hear with letting him have time with the kids whenever he wants. Get this, the plot even thickens, I heard that she had the audacity to ask him for a ride from a bar drunk one night, wow.... like it's seriously just as bad out there as those videos explain - I see it all around me with my very own eyes. I wouldn't get married in this wacky social climate if I was paid to...especially when the monkey branch is just a direct message on social media away. I could even show you all my social media messages and phone texts over the years proving this. These bitches these days aren't worth my time, energy, and potential to put me in the poor house. Someone I know just killed themself over a girl (also kid involved). This has happened to multiple people I've know over the years. I'd rather not play with fire....lol.
And that's not saying that you can't get hitched and have everything work out OK (like COP) but the chances has gotten poorer and poorer over the years and generations... When the chances of the outcome is a 20 to 1 chance of not working out, it is what it is...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 13:17:54 GMT -5
Women don't respect men who bow down and kiss their asses, and we've created a society that all but forces a submissive role on men in relationships (via giving women so much power & privilege, in family court and ability to #METOO men based on her word alone).
Some years ago, my own sister tried to METOO her husband before METOO was an official thing. I was living in their house at the time. He got drunk, they were arguing, she called the cops and told them that he was hitting her. The only reason he didn't go to jail.. I was there and the cops questioned me. I told them the truth that his abuse was verbal only (which makes him a doosh obviously... but still, I ain't lying to the cops). My last gf tried crazy manipulation tactics like a false pregnancy scare. Other gf's before her said & did nutty things and this was all before I've watched any of these videos. That's why I'm done with women.
My theory on why Cop seems to have an alright marriage is that his wife allows him his own little man cave to escape to. When I visited my sister & her family last December, she talked about building a 2nd little home on their land. I (jokingly) asked if it's so her husband can have a man cave to himself. She said no, he's not allowed to have a man cave. lol. He works in sales tho, so he gets to travel a lot and spend time away from his family.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 13:59:18 GMT -5
... But oh when I was posting pics of my $37,000 Camaros, $15,000 jet skis, $16,000 home theater systems, oh boy did they want to be friends and chit chat nonstop even texting me all day at work, LOL. One girl I know called me up totally on the whim when she broke up with her husband and asked if I wanted to just up and move in with her from Jersey to all the way to Florida "because she knows that I'm a go-getter" and I'm like just stunned in disbelief. I'm just going to up and leave my stable job that I've been at since 2003 and go cold turkey with some woman with multiple kids from multiple guys and take care of them with a place big enough in a state 11hrs away from where I live with no job prospects and potentially be broke within a few months from all those costs and liabilities. Fucking makes total sense. What was in it again for me? I kinda missed that part, LMAO.
AaronClarey advised one of his clients (who was seeking long-term relationship advice) to lie about his income & occupation (don't volunteer the info, but if they ask give them lower figures than your actual income), to keep the gold-diggers away. If I were on social media, I wouldn't broadcast that I had money. But that's just me. If you choose to go PUA mode and want to seek female attention, that's different. Guys who are tall and make substantial bank, like on one of my cousins (who's 6'4" and makes $200k+/year... which is like the top 2% of men), have the advantage in this modern dating environment. They're able to take advantage of female hypergamy (unleashed by social media, and the social engineering telling women they can have all it and they're special & deserving of a top tier man... while in truth, the top tier men are way out of most women's SMV league). So he rotates women monthly with ease.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 14:16:16 GMT -5
My Uncle used to be a Construction Manager (new home construction) in Texas. They hired mostly cheap, immigrant labor to do the construction. I suspect it's the same situation in Florida. I can't imagine your job prospects would've been great there. lol
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Post by Cop on Feb 24, 2020 15:25:30 GMT -5
My theory on why Cop seems to have an alright marriage is that his wife allows him his own little man cave to escape to. Lol, that's one way of looking at it... I was lolling (internally) yesterday when my colleague who'd been on sick leave for the past 7 weeks came back to work and told me the first 4 weeks were alright, but the last 3 his girlfriend was also on sick leave and all of a sudden he had to watch what she wanted to watch on TV so he just sat next to her playing games on his phone... What? Why would you do that? The wife and I watch just about nothing together. She likes her crap and I watch what I want to watch, most of the time in different rooms, on different floors even. We watch a movie together every so often (with the kids as well) but just regular TV and/or shows almost never. I wouldn't want to force her to have to sit through the things I like which I know she'll hate and I expect the same from her. My other (female) colleague seems to be the same though, she was talking about it's about giving and taking, sure, that goes for a lot of things, but why would you HAVE TO sit next to each other on the couch watching the same things? Maybe that's something you try to do early in a relationship, but we've been together for 30 years and married for 20, she likes to watch what she likes to watch and I know what I like and rarely the 2 shall meet. Why make an issue of that? Just give each other the space and opportunity to live your life in that smallest of regions like watching TV...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 15:54:31 GMT -5
True. Couples (married or not) need to allow some time apart. They should be able to trust each other and not treat their partner as a child who needs constant adult supervision. If you don't trust the person you're with, you probably shouldn't be in a relationship with that person anyway. Also, the constant monitoring and excessive neediness could be a sign of co-dependency, which is a mental pathology & weakness.
Side tangent: U.S. employers would be allowed to fire an employee if he/she took even a fraction of that amount of time off for sick leave. I think the standard for sick leave is 1 to 2 weeks per year and, in many states (like Ohio), there's no legal requirement to pay employees for sick leave. One exception might be maternity leave.
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Post by Cop on Feb 25, 2020 10:38:14 GMT -5
Well, he broke his (right) hand, it's not like he could do anything. His girlfriend had an operation...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 12:06:25 GMT -5
Well, he broke his (right) hand, it's not like he could do anything. His girlfriend had an operation... I knew someone who broke their hand and took several weeks off too. Except that person got fired.
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