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Post by Cop on Nov 23, 2017 12:56:22 GMT -5
1. Bill Cosby: Justified, total piece of shit. Drugging women and then raping them while unconscious. Deserves to rot in jail and his work to be removed from history.
2. Harvey Weinstein: Justified. Hasn't even tried to deny anything and looks like he did all kinds of shit, from straight up rape to just being generally pervy towards women. Certainly abused the power he had. Looks like he's done for good though. Deserves to do some time for the rape but will probably just become a wealthy social pariah.
3. Kevin Spacey: The Anthony Rapp thing is really damning. Apparently nothing happened but it doesn't bode well. Doubt it was only that one time. Another one that doesn't even try to deny. Most likely he's completely done professionally and will become another wealthy pariah.
4. Louis CK: Now here's where it's starting to sound like a witch hunt. So he's a bit pervy, asking women if they want to come watch him jerk off... ...just say no, lady. Allegations don't seem deserving enough to have all his work pulled from Netflix and his movie shelved. Seems to get the most support though so he'll be back, with some new material. For me the first 'innocent' victim of a fucked up situation.
5. John Lasseter: Pre-emptive strike by Disney so a potential scandal won't occur when they're launching their streaming service. Sacrificed by the higher-ups. Give him an opportunity to step down semi-gracefully (most likely with a golden handshake for services rendered) so the brand keeps its image clean. Apparently he was very touchy-feely but nothing that would even register as too inappropriate a decade ago but in these current times where you need written permission to even talk to a woman, off with his head.
These are the only ones I have enough info on to form an opinion. So what's yours?
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Post by ForRealTho on Nov 23, 2017 14:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by BT on Nov 23, 2017 14:47:58 GMT -5
Kevin Spacey - Morrissey, who is a total bellend and no mistake, did actually raise a valid point in a recent interview that was along the line of "Where were this kids parents/guardians? Why was he alone in a hotel room with this guy?"
Louis CK - ROTFLMAO! "Do you want to watch me wank?" - the logical response, unless you DID want to watch him wank, would surely be "Why would I want to do that? Goodbye." - End of, in my book. /shrugs shoulders
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Post by Cop on Nov 24, 2017 11:54:59 GMT -5
Over here in Belgium we have a case as well. One of the most prolific and succesful people on Flemish TV (and a personal hero of mine) who's scored hit after hit since the early '90s suddenly had his current show pulled and all ties severed with the national TV station because of allegations of sexual misconduct. He (and his entire production company, people who had nothing to do with it) were basically fired because he sent actresses (and women in his professional circle) a bunch of lewd text messages. It was made very clear there was no physical contact involved, just messages and, according to some, 'stalking' (i.e. showing up at someone's house unannounced).
Seems reasonable, I mean, we all know how threatening some text on your phone can be. Some women that received these even testified he stopped sending them after they told him to cut it out because they weren't interested. What a villain!
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Post by WedgieMan on Nov 25, 2017 0:45:27 GMT -5
I'm a huge Louis CK fan, so it really sucks to hear the rumors are all true. Sure, the women could have said no, but to become and stay successful in that field as with many others requires more than just a lot of work. It also requires making connections and not pissing off the wrong people. He knows a lot of people. Maybe he's not the kind of guy who would use that to fuck them over, but how would they know? If he was some random jerkoff, I imagine they would have said no. I certainly wouldn't equate him to a rapist, but I don't think what he did should just be dismissed. Should it end his career? I don't think so, but it makes sense he's going to hurt from it. If he didn't, he may do it again. It seems he has apologized for this before, saying each time he isn't that way anymore, so it doesn't sound like he really learned until all of them went public.
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Post by Ambience on Nov 30, 2017 9:58:44 GMT -5
I'm glad that people are starting to come forward and this stuff isn't being covered up any more. Everyone deserves equal treatment in life.
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Post by Emig5m on Dec 27, 2017 23:31:56 GMT -5
This is why I just get prostitutes....no scandal, no rape charges, and perfectly legal in the 'grey area' if you're only agreeing to pay for "time" hehe. But man, sometimes I wish I had that $33k back in my pocket that I've spent on escorts over the years, lol... Well I guess it's much cheaper than a real wife! (extra car, insurance, bigger house, diamond rings, legal fees for the divorce, child support because the bitch always gets the kids, alimony, possible suicide from the stress of it all.....) yikes.......all of a sudden I don't mind the small amount of money I've spent on da pooosy! MGTOW forevah! w00t!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 12:34:13 GMT -5
Fiction, obviously. But effective story telling, nonetheless, that brought real-world issues into peoples homes and encouraged them to think about these sort of things. Relevant too, as it goes hand in hand with actual history - the Salem Witch "trials", the McCarthy Hearings during the Cold War (i.e. the "Red Scare" - where everybody & his/her Uncle was afraid their neighbor could be a communist)... trials actually used to spread the fear.
Trials are only as good as the people conducting them. For a person or person/s to contribute to justice, well, that requires moral & decent character and a basic level of common sense. Otherwise, trials can be used as a means to falsely prosecute the innocent and subvert our freedoms.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 14:00:05 GMT -5
This is why I just get prostitutes....no scandal, no rape charges, and perfectly legal in the 'grey area' if you're only agreeing to pay for "time" hehe. But man, sometimes I wish I had that $33k back in my pocket that I've spent on escorts over the years, lol... Well I guess it's much cheaper than a real wife! (extra car, insurance, bigger house, diamond rings, legal fees for the divorce, child support because the bitch always gets the kids, alimony, possible suicide from the stress of it all.....) yikes.......all of a sudden I don't mind the small amount of money I've spent on da pooosy! MGTOW forevah! w00t! I remember (from many years ago, in the 90's) in college, my Psychology teacher said that marriage is legalized prostitution. Good thing she's a woman, because a man probably would have been fired for saying it, even back then. Regardless, you have to admire her blunt honesty. |
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Post by Emig5m on Dec 18, 2018 20:11:13 GMT -5
Guy who plays the grandfather on the Disney show Andi Mack was caught trying to meet up with a 13y/o for sex.
Like seriously, how fucking dumb can you possibly be? 1) With shows like To Catch a Predator who the fuck would be stupid enough to try to meet an underage person online to meet in person for illegal activities knowing it's possibly law enforcement on the other end? 2) How much more dumb is it when you're an actor for Disney who's face is on TV at least once a week and you can easily be identified coming and going anywhere at anytime? D'ur.... think McFly, think... It fucking blows my mind how some people can completely ruin and throw away their lives over the stupidest and dumbest shit out there.
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Post by Cop on Dec 19, 2018 14:27:29 GMT -5
It's hard to think straight with all your blood in that throbbing retard in your pants...
edit: also wtf
A 48y old grandfather to a teenage granddaughter? Guess there was some more underage sexing going on there...
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Post by ForRealTho on Dec 19, 2018 22:03:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 9:53:06 GMT -5
imo, if society falls apart (like Sandman suggests), it'll absolutely be the fault of men (generally speaking). I get the D&D character alignment joke. And it's funny because there's truth to it. The above depiction more or less outlines a major problem (particularly in western societies) i.e. men not owning up to themselves and taking responsibility, much less for their communities. Instead, blaming external factors for their woes or, otherwise, making excuses for not having relationships with women or involvement with their communities. But that's not to say that many women aren't messed up too, or that PC culture isn't getting out of hand. In all likelihood, these issues are probably all interconnected. |
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Post by ForRealTho on Dec 22, 2018 10:39:09 GMT -5
And it's funny because there's truth to it. The above depiction more or less outlines a major problem (particularly in western societies) i.e. men not owning up to themselves and taking responsibility, much less for their communities. Instead, blaming external factors for their woes or, otherwise, making excuses for not having relationships with women or involvement with their communities. But that's not to say that many women aren't messed up too, or that PC culture isn't getting out of hand. In all likelihood, these issues are probably all interconnected. I agree 100%. I find the whole "manosphere"(Incel/Redpill/MGTOW) thing fascinating because I can relate to some of the things they say and I could have easily been one of those "Incel" dudes if I had a worse mentality when I was younger. I remember being 14 and being jealous when girls would talk about "hot guys" and realizing I didn't have any of those qualities. I could have become crazy bitter and went on the internet and lashed out but I didn't. I never tried to date the hottest girl in the room because I knew I wasn't the hottest guy in the room. A common complaint from "manosphere" types is women go for "buff chads". Put yourself in a woman's shoes. A large buff male would better be able to protect you and your young if shit goes down. It indicates health, similarly to a woman not wanting a pasty dude with huge purple bags under his eyes. Being a pasty zombie does not indicate good health. Also being massively fat is not healthy either. From an evolutionary perspective it makes 100% for women to want large buff athletic dudes. In my early 20s I stared hitting the gym 5 days a week and it did wonders for my looks and women reacted a lot better to me. Then I went from dating average looking girls to pretty girls since my "SMV" went up as Redpillers like to say: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/2e2zqk/guys_who_have_raised_their_smv_give_me_the_before/ So then the manosphere types will be like "AH HA! SEE!?!?!?! THEY ONLY LIKED YOU CUZ OF YOUR MUSCLES WOMEN ARE SUCH SHALLOW BITCHES! 100% PROOF!!!!" Yet all those same dudes who say that lust after pretty girls and never morbidly obese acne ridden ugly girls. Total hypocrisy. Also if you watch some of those manosphere youtube videos you can see many of those guys are terribly awkward and have no social skills at all. Learning social skills is on an individual and you can't blame women for not being interested if you literally cannot talk to girls at all. Fix your shit first before the woman hating. Basically when manosphere types make these long videos with all these "deep and profound insights" on the nature of women I am reminded of this: |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 14:59:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. I post those vids because I find them somewhat amusing. Of course, there's some truth to them, which is what makes it funny.
To state the reality of the situation in the most basic terms, I'd say it's simply women wanting the men to at least strive to become something better. And the men who complain about it always being womens' fault aren't so willing to change their own lives (for example, spend a little less time playing video games and more time working on relationships, getting involved in the community, etc).
Of course, it's easy for me to say because I'm not one of those fat, ugly dudes. If I were in their shoes, I might be just as jaded about women.
But again, that's not to say that there aren't messed up women too (to be cautious about), because there certainly are.
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Post by Emig5m on Dec 22, 2018 15:12:33 GMT -5
Yea right guys, lets see some pics!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 19:38:51 GMT -5
In my early 20's, i took a weight-lifting class during the summer (6 weeks, probably 2 hours a day, 4 days a week) and went from benching 70lbs to over 200lbs. Yeah, working out isn't fun and takes dedication (for me anyway). But definitely worth it, as long as you're careful and don't injure yourself.
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Post by Cop on Dec 23, 2018 8:34:40 GMT -5
Yea right guys, lets see some pics!  For how many women is that the last face they saw before the knife went in? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 12:55:35 GMT -5
Also, the vast tracts of Alaskan wilderness to hide the bodies. I've wondered why you'd choose to live in Alaska. Now it makes sense. lol
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Post by Babel-17 on Dec 23, 2018 18:11:31 GMT -5
IIRC at least one was in a room with him when he went to the door and locked it first. That's a bit different, and since he was already a star, and they weren't, and he was in good with the people running the club, and they might not have been that cozy with management, it starts sounding like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, with Dennis getting girls to take a cruise on a yacht with him.
I'll cut him slack by saying he came of age in a time/culture where men were expected to "get over" on women. Running out of gas by the beach, all the old ways some men used for seduction.
I don't think he meant to have women feel threatened, and that part of his particular problem here is that he wasn't on a level playing field with these women. He was older, bigger, stronger, and in a position to help their careers.
If he was just a geeky fellow nerdy comedian who thought whipping his crank out, and putting it to use, was part of his dynamic with his lady pals, that would be one thing (supposedly he had that with Sarah Silverman). I guess he got caught up in it, and to the extent that he didn't realize what he was dong wasn't OK, I hope he gets forgiven.
The stumbling block is that he was a star, and society is now confronting how women without power get victimized.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 19:32:28 GMT -5
You have to wonder though if the #MeToo movement is kind of like the Salem witch trials, where more & more girls & women would join in and accuse ppl of being witches, and the hysteria/panic escalated past the point of absurdity and ppl finally realized it. Regardless, it seems that the media automatically assumes the man is guilty (just look at their handling of the accusations against Neil deGrasse Tyson I posted earlier) and conveniently ignores that there are cases when it's not the man's fault (or that the women, in some of these cases, just might be making shit up for her own personal reasons or benefit or maybe that some of them are just batshit crazy). Consider the Brynn Hartman & Phil Hartman murder-suicide... proof that some women can be nutters, at least while coked-up and under the influence of drugs. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Hartman#DeathI agree with the thread title, that every alleged incident should be scrutinized on a case by case basis. The presumption of guilt from the get-go (without a trial) based merely on hearsay is irresponsible (since it destroys mens' lives, some of whom could be innocent). |
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Post by ForRealTho on Dec 23, 2018 23:43:58 GMT -5
As someone who used to work in the social services field the witch hunt mentality can be scary. All it took was an accusation and you were done, so as a man I made sure I had female staff around when I was going to be with female clients but that isn't possible all the time.
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Post by Emig5m on Dec 25, 2018 23:42:33 GMT -5
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