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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 3, 2019 8:32:58 GMT -5
So like I said in the other thread back in 2015 I got a Samsung 850 Evo 1 tb. I used it as my only drive for a couple years and it has since been changed into a games only drive. I think that drive is rated for 50 tb of usage, mine was over 90 tb last time I checked. Thursday I got 2 of the Wolfenstein games on sale and downloaded both. That was about 50 gigs. Yesterday I got home from work and when I booted up my laptop I noticed it was kinda sluggish. Then it hard locked to the point I couldn't even click on the start menu. I held down the power and when I turned it on it wouldn't boot. Being an IT person I have a Windows 10 USB at the ready at all times. So I stuck that in my laptop and even that won't boot. At this point I am thinking my motherboard is fucked up. My laptop is 3 years old at this point and I use the shit out of it. Going through basic trouble shooting I disconnect the 850 Evo and bam boots right up on the OS SSD. I plugged the 850 back in inside Windows and I can't even access it. Chkdsk won't run or anything. Its done. As of now I can't even get Windows to scan the thing. Glad I had nothing but games on there. I'm out of some savegames and screenshots is all. I ordered a 2 tb sabrent SSD to replace it. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MTQTNVR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1Important Lesson:I reserved 90 gigs of the 1 tb drive for swap space, also CrystalDiskInfo said the drive was 97% intact last time I checked like 3 weeks ago. This didn't mean shit in the end. When an SSD goes it just goes regardless of what you do. |
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Post by Coolverine on Aug 3, 2019 8:46:35 GMT -5
Wow, that's scary. I've been using the same Crucial M4 256GB SSD for OS install since around 2013 (maybe even 2012), it still seems fine. I would call Samsung and see if it's still under warranty, I don't think it should have failed after 4 years. I have all my games on my other 2 SSD's (1TB Crucial and 4TB Samsung, M.2 and 2.5" SATA respectively), only 1 or 2 games are installed on the 256GB one.
I have been thinking about taking out my 256GB since it's so old, but I think I'll hold out a bit longer. Definitely gonna back it up.
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 3, 2019 9:03:00 GMT -5
According to their website its good for 5 years or 150 tb written. I could make a huge deal of it and get warranty service but I have wanted to go all m2 form factor for a while. I suppose I could get warranty service and then sell the replacement on ebay or something.
I kinda miss the whole getting bad sectors as a warning. The 850 Evo was perfectly fine till yesterday. No bad load times or anything.
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 3, 2019 9:04:36 GMT -5
I have a USB to SATA adapter, if I plug the 850 Evo in CrystalDiskInfo will not even launch. If I unplug the Evo it fires right up. I have no way to even verify how many tb is written.
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Post by Coolverine on Aug 3, 2019 10:27:14 GMT -5
Even if these SSD's have to be replaced after so many years, I think I would still rather have one than a traditional hard drive. 500GB ones are going for pretty cheap these days, $65 for the Samsung 860 EVO's last I saw.
I'm thinking maybe the lower capacity ones last longer than ones with high capacity?
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 3, 2019 12:32:53 GMT -5
Even if these SSD's have to be replaced after so many years, I think I would still rather have one than a traditional hard drive. 500GB ones are going for pretty cheap these days, $65 for the Samsung 860 EVO's last I saw. I'm thinking maybe the lower capacity ones last longer than ones with high capacity? Nope its the opposite. The larger ones last longer and are faster as well. |
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Post by Coolverine on Aug 3, 2019 13:31:08 GMT -5
Interesting. I have made it a point to leave my 256GB with least 80-90GB free on it at all times, it's never gone below 75 gigs.
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 3, 2019 18:32:24 GMT -5
My 2tb drive got here a little bit ago.
Did the clone of my 512 gig 970 evo -> 2tb drive in 20 minutes flat over my Thunderbolt external caddy. So nuts how fast stuff has got.
In hindsight is was a total waste of money to get a 512 gig drive i should have just gone all the way but meh. I'm hanging onto it as a backup in case the one I am on now dies.
Luckily I am on FiOS with no data cap so I can redownload everything.
When I get a new laptop I can just got for the cheapest storage option or no SSD at all and just plug this one in.
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 3, 2019 18:32:56 GMT -5
Also used Minitool Partition Wizard, we all have our favorites but in my experience that is the best cloning tool. Never had an issue.
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 3, 2019 18:44:13 GMT -5
Not to shabby all these Nvme drives are ridiculously fast. Peak temp was 65c with the heatsink on it:  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 16:21:01 GMT -5
imo, two drives is an ideal setup for home PC's. One smaller SSD for the OS and a second larger SSD or HDD (depending on your performance vs. storage capacity needs) for everything else.
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 4, 2019 17:45:16 GMT -5
imo, two drives is an ideal setup for home PC's. One smaller SSD for the OS and a second larger SSD or HDD (depending on your performance vs. storage capacity needs) for everything else. That is how I was running for the last few years. I'm holding onto my old OS SSD so in case this one dies I just have to swap it back in. |
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 5, 2019 20:35:43 GMT -5
So the 850 Evo was rated for 150 tbw, the Sabrent I just got is rated for 3115 tbw....not a typo....uh, gonna be a while. lol
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Post by hydrawm on Aug 6, 2019 7:48:42 GMT -5
That's unfortunate as that drive is still decently useful. We haven't had any SSDs die yet and the old 120GB Samsung 830 SSDs that were used as OS drives have become too small to be useful.
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 6, 2019 9:51:15 GMT -5
That's unfortunate as that drive is still decently useful. We haven't had any SSDs die yet and the old 120GB Samsung 830 SSDs that were used as OS drives have become too small to be useful. I've been on a 1tb main drive for so many years thats what I see as normal. A 2tb main drive is kinda ridiculous. I have pretty much everything installed I need but I'm sitting at over 900 gigs free. No need for this much space. |
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Post by hydrawm on Aug 6, 2019 22:08:13 GMT -5
Nothing else for it, you'll have to install every single game you own.
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Post by Coolverine on Aug 8, 2019 17:31:13 GMT -5
I've been using the same Crucial 256GB SSD for 6 years now, not sure how many TBW it has gone through but I will probably be replacing it soon. I looked it up, it's rated for 72 TBW, or 40GB written every day for 5 years.
I will probably replace it with another Crucial, I am highly impressed with them. The DDR4 RAM in my PC is also from Crucial.
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Post by Emig5m on Aug 8, 2019 17:57:16 GMT -5
Probably just a fluke....My original Intel 320 series is still at 99% life remaining...
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 8, 2019 18:02:10 GMT -5
I've been using the same Crucial 256GB SSD for 6 years now, not sure how many TBW it has gone through but I will probably be replacing it soon. I looked it up, it's rated for 72 TBW, or 40GB written every day for 5 years. I will probably replace it with another Crucial, I am highly impressed with them. The DDR4 RAM in my PC is also from Crucial. If you install CrystalDiskInfo it will tell you under "total host writes" on the upper right hand corner. I said the one that died had 90 but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong and that was the 970 Evo I just bought in November and I last checked that months ago. After 4 years of being my main drive then gaming drive it had to be a lot higher then that. Luckily the Nvme drives have way higher reliability so it should be a loooong time before this one dies. 5 year warranty. |
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 8, 2019 18:03:57 GMT -5
Probably just a fluke....My original Intel 320 series is still at 99% life remaining... Mine said 99% in Samsung tools and said it was "Good" the wearleveling count was 97%. On top of that I overpovisioned 90 gigs so it would last longer. Funny I went from 2 Samsung drives to none in 1 day since I took my 512 out of my laptop. |
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Post by Coolverine on Aug 8, 2019 20:46:49 GMT -5
I've been using the same Crucial 256GB SSD for 6 years now, not sure how many TBW it has gone through but I will probably be replacing it soon. I looked it up, it's rated for 72 TBW, or 40GB written every day for 5 years. I will probably replace it with another Crucial, I am highly impressed with them. The DDR4 RAM in my PC is also from Crucial. If you install CrystalDiskInfo it will tell you under "total host writes" on the upper right hand corner. I said the one that died had 90 but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong and that was the 970 Evo I just bought in November and I last checked that months ago. After 4 years of being my main drive then gaming drive it had to be a lot higher then that. Luckily the Nvme drives have way higher reliability so it should be a loooong time before this one dies. 5 year warranty. I've tried looking at it on CrystalDiskInfo, for some reason neither of my Crucial SSD's show that information. My Samsung SSD does though, still has 2395. I noticed the Sabrent one you mentioned has 3115 TBW, what capacity is it? |
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Post by ForRealTho on Aug 9, 2019 14:29:08 GMT -5
If you install CrystalDiskInfo it will tell you under "total host writes" on the upper right hand corner. I said the one that died had 90 but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong and that was the 970 Evo I just bought in November and I last checked that months ago. After 4 years of being my main drive then gaming drive it had to be a lot higher then that. Luckily the Nvme drives have way higher reliability so it should be a loooong time before this one dies. 5 year warranty. I've tried looking at it on CrystalDiskInfo, for some reason neither of my Crucial SSD's show that information. My Samsung SSD does though, still has 2395. I noticed the Sabrent one you mentioned has 3115 TBW, what capacity is it? 2 tb. I went from a 512 gig OS SSD and a 1 TB Games SSD to a single 2 tb SSD for everything. I'm hanging onto the 512 as a backup in case this 2 tb dies. People are funny, there are several people bitching that the one I got "only" has a 3,XXX read rating and isn't as fast as the Samsung 970 Evo/Pro. 3,000 megs a second is ridiculous and just a couple years ago 550 megs a second was considered crazy fast. Now with the new Ryzen chips out some Nvme drives can do 5,000 megs a second. If you are going to tell me with a straight face you can tell the difference between a 3,000 meg ssd and a 5,000 ssd I am going to call you a liar. I couldn't tell any difference really between my old RAID0 m2 SATA drives that did 1,000 megs a second and the 970 Evo. Large games initially loadtime was a bit quicker. |
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