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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 11:39:50 GMT -5
PS1 Classic console. www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-classic/Only 20 games pre-loaded. But if Sony allows more games to be downloaded (even for a price), or someone figures out how to mod it and add more games, I'd consider it. The PS1 arguably has the best (and largest) game library of any console.
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Post by Coolverine on Oct 13, 2018 11:52:26 GMT -5
Looks nice, I do agree, hopefully Sony will allow more games to be added to it.
I'm wondering if Nintendo is going to make an N64 classic edition. I still have my N64 and lots of games for it, but if they do make one and it has games that I don't own on, I might consider buying one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 11:53:36 GMT -5
Interesting, there's a panel on the back of the console. USB controller ports are in the front, so it's not that. Hopefully, there's a slot for memory card, to load/play additional games. On second thought, it might just be aesthetics to make it look like the original, since i believe the original console had this panel.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 11:59:05 GMT -5
Looks nice, I do agree, hopefully Sony will allow more games to be added to it. Weren't the games dvd-based on original PS1? So the size of game files/roms would be fairly large. The console probably would need a memory card slot or much larger internal storage (compared to NES/SNES classic) to load a decent amount of games.
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Post by Coolverine on Oct 13, 2018 12:11:01 GMT -5
PS1 games were on CD's, then PS2 used DVD's (as did original Xbox). CD's hold up to maybe around 700mb of data at most AFAIK. Might be another reason they only put 20 games on it, more storage space might have driven up the cost.
Funny enough, they were still putting PC games on (usually multiple) CD's while the PS2 and Xbox were around using DVD's for their games. There is only one PC game I know of that was available on DVD around that time, which was Wing Commander IV. The cutscenes had much better video quality compared to the CD version (which I own). The DVD version was extremely limited and very hard to find, though you can sometimes find them on ebay now. I gave up trying to find a copy of it years ago, ended up downloading the DVD version from somewhere. Was even able to get it running in windows 7 but it had some color palette issues.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 12:46:42 GMT -5
That game is definitely hard or impossible to acquire (at an affordable price). Some years ago, I put in an Ebay bid on Wing Commander IV (DVD). Of course, someone outbid me by $200 or something ridiculous like that.
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Post by Coolverine on Oct 13, 2018 12:57:35 GMT -5
I remember they released a patch for the CD-DOS game to make it compatible with Windows 95/98, it was great because it gave it DirectInput support, which meant joystick didn't have to be calibrated in-game anymore. it also lets you run the game in a window.
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Post by Cop on Oct 13, 2018 13:33:20 GMT -5
PS1 Classic console. www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-classic/Only 20 games pre-loaded. But if Sony allows more games to be downloaded (even for a price), or someone figures out how to mod it and add more games, I'd consider it. The PS1 arguably has the best (and largest) game library of any console. The early 3D games, like just about every game on the PS1, haven't aged well. Even with bilinear filtering, they're very hard to look at now, unless maybe they upped the resolution. But if the res remains original, it's pretty crappy graphics wise. Pixel art 16-bit games like the old Super Nintendo ones have aged much more gracefully...
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Post by Coolverine on Oct 13, 2018 13:53:08 GMT -5
N64 games have aged well too, I still find some of them enjoyable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 14:46:31 GMT -5
PS1 Classic console. www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-classic/Only 20 games pre-loaded. But if Sony allows more games to be downloaded (even for a price), or someone figures out how to mod it and add more games, I'd consider it. The PS1 arguably has the best (and largest) game library of any console. The early 3D games, like just about every game on the PS1, haven't aged well. Even with bilinear filtering, they're very hard to look at now, unless maybe they upped the resolution. But if the res remains original, it's pretty crappy graphics wise. Pixel art 16-bit games like the old Super Nintendo ones have aged much more gracefully... I read the resolution has been upscaled to 720P, just like on NES/SNES classic, so we'll see. Also, I imagine Sony will do like Nintendo and include a display mode to smooth out the graphics. Maybe bilinear filtering is enough w/ res upscaled to 720P. PS1 had a decent number of games with nice looking, non-3D, pixel graphics as well. Whether or not any of those will be included with the PS1 Classic remains to be seen.
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 13, 2018 14:58:49 GMT -5
PS1 Classic console. www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-classic/Only 20 games pre-loaded. But if Sony allows more games to be downloaded (even for a price), or someone figures out how to mod it and add more games, I'd consider it. The PS1 arguably has the best (and largest) game library of any console. The early 3D games, like just about every game on the PS1, haven't aged well. Even with bilinear filtering, they're very hard to look at now, unless maybe they upped the resolution. But if the res remains original, it's pretty crappy graphics wise. Pixel art 16-bit games like the old Super Nintendo ones have aged much more gracefully... You can make PS1 games look a lot better in emulators. PGXP changes the underlying graphics engine so that you can get smooth lines and less shaking like on original hardware. Also as of 2018 there are cheat codes you can enter that unlock 60 fps gameplay for a lot of games
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 21:18:52 GMT -5
The early 3D games, like just about every game on the PS1, haven't aged well. Even with bilinear filtering, they're very hard to look at now, unless maybe they upped the resolution. But if the res remains original, it's pretty crappy graphics wise. Pixel art 16-bit games like the old Super Nintendo ones have aged much more gracefully... You can make PS1 games look a lot better in emulators. PGXP changes the underlying graphics engine so that you can get smooth lines and less shaking like on original hardware. Also as of 2018 there are cheat codes you can enter that unlock 60 fps gameplay for a lot of games That is impressive (for a PS1 game). Unlikely that the games will look that good on PS1 Classic.
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Post by Cop on Oct 14, 2018 0:37:30 GMT -5
I can only compare it to original PS1 game discs when run on the PS3 and the PS1 classics on the PS3 and the 3D games look rough, even with smoothed out textures. If they do increase the resolution, that would certainly make it a whole lot better compared to the 240p res of the original. That looked already jaggerific on a CRT back in the day.
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 14, 2018 12:41:29 GMT -5
I can only compare it to original PS1 game discs when run on the PS3 and the PS1 classics on the PS3 and the 3D games look rough, even with smoothed out textures. If they do increase the resolution, that would certainly make it a whole lot better compared to the 240p res of the original. That looked already jaggerific on a CRT back in the day. Sony has the money and ability to do what the emulator people are doing but I doubt they will. It isn't just about high res even tho that really really helps. PS1 emulators these days change the PS1 graphis engine and how it displays 3d. Outside of Silent Hill I haven't really played any PS1 games tho, I had moved on from consoles when the PS1 was a thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 14:29:58 GMT -5
I can only compare it to original PS1 game discs when run on the PS3 and the PS1 classics on the PS3 and the 3D games look rough, even with smoothed out textures. If they do increase the resolution, that would certainly make it a whole lot better compared to the 240p res of the original. That looked already jaggerific on a CRT back in the day. Sony has the money and ability to do what the emulator people are doing but I doubt they will. It isn't just about high res even tho that really really helps. PS1 emulators these days change the PS1 graphis engine and how it displays 3d. Outside of Silent Hill I haven't really played any PS1 games tho, I had moved on from consoles when the PS1 was a thing. They won't. The idea behind these retro consoles is to duplicate the look & feel of the old consoles. Nintendo has done a superb job of that (with CRT mode). The others (Sega and SNK) failed in their attempts and the quality is actually worse than the originals, according to the reviews I've seen. Probably the best we could expect with the PS1 Classic is that they make the games look close to like they did when played on original hardware & CRT. I do agree w/ Cop. But again, the PS1 had great sprite-based games (FF Tactics, Castlevania SOTN, Breath of Fire)... I suppose that 3D was new to devs at that time and many probably didn't feel like experimenting, so they chose to stick w/ 2D sprites on a 3D capable console. So if it turns out you can hack it & download games, you can play those still nice-looking 2D games on PS1 Classic as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 17:02:17 GMT -5
MUSHA - an excellent Genesis SHUMP for retro gaming collectors... a bargain at only $369.47 www.lukiegames.com/MUSHA-Sega-Genesis-Game.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI57-ApteG3gIVa7-zCh3rKQ1kEAEYASAGEgLS6fD_BwE#Seriously tho, I rented this game back in the day and it was alot of fun (if you're into SHUMP's at all). Great graphics - sprites fill the screen and fall-away tiles & enemies that drop into the backgrounds (i.e. parallax scrolling - on level 3, there's canyon with a lava river), fast-paced thumping music, armor w/ leveling (very few cheap 1 hit kills on the player), and you can shoot in multiple directions ("reverse" mode shoots in the opposite direction you're moving).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 18:04:41 GMT -5
I thought about getting one of those LG OLED TV's, but (aside from the price) after reading about the problems they have with image retention, I'm glad I didn't get one. They sure do look great though. I'm very happy with the Samsung TV, I don't think I have anything that uses the HDR but Steam Link streaming on it is great. It even upscales, although the picture quality looks a little washed out (but still looks great) compared to my monitor. I might get one of those Samsung QLED 4K monitors, the prices aren't too bad last I looked. I think my PC specs can push 4K gaming just fine (Ryzen 7 1700, 16 gigs of DDR4, and a GTX 1070). The LG OLED tv's are on sale right now. Highest rated TV's, according to Rtings.com www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-size/65-inch$700 discount and no sales tax... www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1411165-REG/lg_oled65b8pua_65_b8pua_4k_hdr.htmlBut you're right, they warn of the possibility of image burn-in. I went to Best Buy yesterday and looked at the tv's. The quality of Samsung Q8FN and Q9FN (QLED) models stood out from the other tv's (of course, except the LG & Sony OLED models which clearly had better black levels/contrast). Personally, I didn't see a huge difference between the Q8FN and Q9FN - they both look equally great imo. Those are on sale too. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1395648-REG/samsung_qn65q8fnbfxza_q8_series_65_curved.htmlThey say the best value tv's w/ high-end image quality are the Vizio P-series Quantum. This model has the QLED "Quantum Dot" display, which they undoubtedly source from Samsung. People were finding this on sale for $1500 last summer, so anyone interested might want to hold a bit longer and see if they offer the same sale again (maybe Cyber-Monday/week). That's what I'd do, since I don't see myself spending $2000+ on a tv. www.samsclub.com/sams/vizio-quantum-65in-4k-televsion-hdr-smart-240hz-hdmi/prod22380728.ip?sourceid=cri1234567890123456789012345678901234567890&CAWELAID=730010300002030936&pid=_CSE_CR_RMKT_LF_60%22%20&%20Larger%20TVs_5Edit: a drawback of the Vizio P-series is that it doesn't do scaling (to 480P and 720P) as well as the major brands (like Samsung, LG, or Sony). So it's not the best tv for classic consoles, which scale to 720P. This wouldn't affect my decision though, since I prefer playing those older games on a smaller sub-40" tv anyway (like the old days).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 23:51:33 GMT -5
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Post by Coolverine on Oct 16, 2018 0:49:07 GMT -5
That Vizio TV is indeed nice. It's surprising that Samsung TV is scored so low for gaming, Samsung's are supposed to be great for gaming. They even have a free Steam Link app you can download and it works just as well as the standalone unit.
I looked up mine on there, it's at an 8.1 for gaming. I believe it, I've tried it both connected to my PC and streaming Steam games over the network, it's great at both of those things. Still looks best when plugged in with HDMI though. Also another reason I got a 40" TV, I may get another (bigger) TV and use this one as a PC display in my room.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 9:17:02 GMT -5
That Vizio TV is indeed nice. It's surprising that Samsung TV is scored so low for gaming, Samsung's are supposed to be great for gaming. They even have a free Steam Link app you can download and it works just as well as the standalone unit. I looked up mine on there, it's at an 8.1 for gaming. I believe it, I've tried it both connected to my PC and streaming Steam games over the network, it's great at both of those things. Still looks best when plugged in with HDMI though. Also another reason I got a 40" TV, I may get another (bigger) TV and use this one as a PC display in my room. Well, it's not a terrible tv (the J5500) - the screen is bright and color uniformity is good. But the motion blur is rated very poorly, not good for gaming. I guess pretty much all the 32" models don't have great tech specs. The Vizio E-series scores high on "black frame insertion" feature, which is great for reducing motion blur and should make this a good tv for gaming.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 9:37:55 GMT -5
That Vizio TV is indeed nice. It's surprising that Samsung TV is scored so low for gaming, Samsung's are supposed to be great for gaming. They even have a free Steam Link app you can download and it works just as well as the standalone unit. I looked up mine on there, it's at an 8.1 for gaming. I believe it, I've tried it both connected to my PC and streaming Steam games over the network, it's great at both of those things. Still looks best when plugged in with HDMI though. Also another reason I got a 40" TV, I may get another (bigger) TV and use this one as a PC display in my room.If you're looking at budget models, the TCL 6-Series have "the best picture quality for the money..." (cnet.com review) www.cnet.com/reviews/tcl-65r617-2018-roku-tv-review/The reason I'm not getting a TCL 6-Series is that they're only available in 55" or 65", and I don't want a tv that large for my bedroom. And I already own a Sony 55" for the living room.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 20:54:47 GMT -5
That Vizio TV is indeed nice. It's surprising that Samsung TV is scored so low for gaming, Samsung's are supposed to be great for gaming. They even have a free Steam Link app you can download and it works just as well as the standalone unit. I looked up mine on there, it's at an 8.1 for gaming. I believe it, I've tried it both connected to my PC and streaming Steam games over the network, it's great at both of those things. Still looks best when plugged in with HDMI though. Also another reason I got a 40" TV, I may get another (bigger) TV and use this one as a PC display in my room.If you're looking at budget models, the TCL 6-Series have "the best picture quality for the money..." (cnet.com review) www.cnet.com/reviews/tcl-65r617-2018-roku-tv-review/The reason I'm not getting a TCL 6-Series is that they're only available in 55" or 65", and I don't want a tv that large for my bedroom. And I already own a Sony 55" for the living room. btw, Samsung's closest offering is the NU8000. It's basically a tie on picture quality. Comparison: www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/tcl-r617-vs-samsung-nu8000/613/586#usage*4854!threshold*0.1 Currently, the NU8000 is about $300 more than the TCL 6-series. But the NU8000 has Freesync (for better gaming with an Xbox One S/X, or PC equipped with a Radeon gpu).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 9:54:36 GMT -5
That Vizio TV is indeed nice. It's surprising that Samsung TV is scored so low for gaming, Samsung's are supposed to be great for gaming. They even have a free Steam Link app you can download and it works just as well as the standalone unit. I looked up mine on there, it's at an 8.1 for gaming. I believe it, I've tried it both connected to my PC and streaming Steam games over the network, it's great at both of those things. Still looks best when plugged in with HDMI though. Also another reason I got a 40" TV, I may get another (bigger) TV and use this one as a PC display in my room. I found some vids on Youtube about how to calibrate my Samsung (J5500) tv and now I'm thinking that Rtings.com low rating is due to they were just figuring out how to test tv's, when this tv came out a few years ago. I noticed in the comparison, many of their tests weren't performed on this model, even though it does indeed have some of these features... for example, I know the tv has a Black Frame Insertion (BFI), Motion interpolation, and Dimming... which they didn't test, perhaps because the features have different/obscure names on this tv... such as, BFI is listed as "LED Clear Motion" in the menu. The guy in the vid here explains how to calibrate the tv (J5500) with input lag under 30msec... not bad, for a somewhat older ~$200 tv. Except, I did a couple of settings different (HDMI Black Level = Low and Backlight set to 18... this gives darker blacks and better contrast vs. his recommended settings). Really nice improvement in picture quality after the calibration. I'll keep this tv for a while and use it playing retro gaming consoles and the PS3, since it does a good job scaling to 720P resolutions.
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Post by Coolverine on Oct 21, 2018 9:15:28 GMT -5
I tried to hook up my N64 to my new TV, the power light comes on but the TV gets no signal. Also connected it to an old CRT TV I still have, but even on that it is not getting a signal. I even have two different A/V cables, tried both and it still doesn't work with either (unless they both happen to be bad). I hadn't used the N64 in years, but it worked perfectly the last time I played it. There are repair shops around that fix old consoles, I might take it in and see if they can do anything. If not, I might just buy a new one from Ebay.
I also still have my Gamecube, I will be equally as pissed if that one doesn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 13:35:27 GMT -5
I tried to hook up my N64 to my new TV, the power light comes on but the TV gets no signal. Also connected it to an old CRT TV I still have, but even on that it is not getting a signal. I even have two different A/V cables, tried both and it still doesn't work with either (unless they both happen to be bad). I hadn't used the N64 in years, but it worked perfectly the last time I played it. There are repair shops around that fix old consoles, I might take it in and see if they can do anything. If not, I might just buy a new one from Ebay. I also still have my Gamecube, I will be equally as pissed if that one doesn't work. Try disabling "HDMI UHD Color", which this guy suggests doing when connecting older devices to your tv.
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