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Post by Emig5m on Dec 2, 2018 18:53:22 GMT -5
Been using the Evo 212 since my Core2 Duo 2500k..... I figured I would just save a little and transfer it over to my 6700k build at the time since it was compatible and decently rated cooler. It was totally adequate for the 6700k at stock speeds but got too hot when overclocking so I decided to get the best air cooler, the Noctua NH-D15S......
That thing is a beast! lol The Evo 212 looked like a beast next to the stock Intel cooler and for comparison, here's the EVO next to the stock Intel cooler.....
I got lucky and won the silicon lottery with my 2500k (overclocked by 1Ghz without even touching the Vcore) but sadly my 6700k isn't that great. In fact, out of the box with the first couple BIOS updates it wasn't stable at all overclocking more than 200Hz... Even on a previous mobo from another brand. Just updated the BIOS and it would now go up to 4.5GHz from the stock 4GHz but the temps would go through the roof and one core would actually hit the Tjmax (100c) and throttle down. This new cooler peaks at 92c on that core, but that's worst case scenario in Prime95/Small FFT which gets the CPU much hotter than even the IntelBurnTest app which again, is much hotter than real world use. I still settled for 4.4GHz at a lower voltage just because although I like a little added performance over stock, I didn't want to totally cook the chip at 2.5Hz and up running say, 1.4Vcore (I'm settled in at about 1.325Vcore) which honestly, I'm videocard bottlenecked and the CPU overclock didn't even add one frame per second to games at high quality/1440p but maybe a little faster loading/booting stuff. Anyhow, overclocking is still fun and now I have a good cooler that should last me a long while and my EVO can go back to my 2500k in which I would eventually like to get back together for a second system once I get a new videocard and case I should have all the parts needed to throw it together.
I can see everyone reading this thread now, lol....
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Post by Coolverine on Dec 2, 2018 19:13:11 GMT -5
Cooler Master is great, I have a Hyper TX3 from 2008 that still works just fine. Haven't used Noctua yet, but they seem to make great stuff too.
I don't much care for Cooler Master's cases though, I mean they make great cases but I've gotten spoiled on Lian Li aluminum cases.
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Post by Babel-17 on Dec 2, 2018 19:34:31 GMT -5
Interesting. One thing though, there actually is no stock cooler for the i7 6700k, only for the non-k version is there one. I had it. The stock cooler for the i7 2600 (non-k) towers over it, and I have that one as well. Though the i7 2600 had a TDP of 95 watts, the 6700 has one of 65 watts, so that's part of it. I also have the aftermarket cooler/fan for the i7 6700k that Intel did make. It works nicely on my i7 6700, and even though it was considered just OK by reviewers it performs very quietly for me, as my non-k processor doesn't challenge it. I tested using Prime and OCCTPT on my older cooler and OCCTPT would cancel the test in seconds because of overheating. With the new cooler it's fine. It's a good enough performer that has the benefit of being lighter and more compact than its higher performing competition. Probably cheaper than most as well. As I said previously, the new microcode Microsoft has pushed out to patch Intel processors against SPECTRE and other vulnerabilities has caused the processors to work harder, and that could be having an impact with this. Microsoft claims to have better performing code coming soon, fwiw. Here's the Intel aftermarket cooler I bought from Amazon. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013U542QE/
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Post by Emig5m on Dec 2, 2018 19:37:29 GMT -5
That stock Intel cooler pictured above came with the i5 2500k. Yes, the i7 6700K didn't come with one probably because it would of been a waste since most everyone buying the K series would opt for a better aftermarket one for overclocking anyway.
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Post by Babel-17 on Dec 2, 2018 19:47:48 GMT -5
I should have grokked that, you did say you had a 2500k, but the "Core 2" part had me thinking of the pre-i7 CPUs. ark.intel.com/products/52210/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3-70-GHz-But what the heck, even without overclocking that chip has a TDP of 95 watts! No way that cooler is more than a throw-away, like those graphic cards that systems shipped with just so you could boot up before installing something that could play games. Back before CPUs had integrated graphics. That cooler looks just like the one I replaced, and it only had to handle a 65 watt TDP CPU.
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Post by Babel-17 on Dec 2, 2018 20:11:17 GMT -5
4k panels are not friendly to Intel's bottom line. My GPU gets a workout but my i7 6700 isn't getting seriously challenged, even by the most modern gaming engines. Though I don't play RTS games, which IIRC can make a cpu work hard to keep up. More bad news for Intel, lol: www.techspot.com/news/77667-world-first-8k-tv-channel-has-kicked-off.htmlThough I love this kind of tech I think it won't be the added pixels that motivate my next purchase. Better contrast, brightness, syncing technology, and much more bandwidth from HDMI and display port for both higher refresh rates, and running 4:4:4 at 10 bit, is what gets me salivating. Though if/when movies fully capitalize on the possibilities, and not just label stuff "8k" that shows scant difference, I'll maybe think about it, finances permitting. nVidia and AMD will squeal with delight when gamers start buying them. It would take four times the oomph to push 8k, vs. 4k. Though 8k could be a doomed tech, for decades anyway, if VR takes off, movies don't use it much (Film being more amenable, by and large when talking top of the line film, to 8k than is digital, and digital is getting more popular), and nVidia and AMD struggle to produce more powerful generations as process shrinks become tougher. A well coded game, with all its bells and whistles engaged, using all the CPU sparing tricks of DX12, could be bringing the newest and best cards to their knees at 4k just as much in 2022 as some games do now in 2018. But they might be capable of having an i7 2600k driving it at a steady 60 fps. CPU doesn't care if it's 1080p or 4k, or 8k, and that might be a problem for Intel going forward as games get better optimized by way of DX12, and consoles being more like PCs making for better ports. Word is that Intel has plans to release video cards in 2020.
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Post by Emig5m on Dec 2, 2018 21:57:01 GMT -5
4k panels are not friendly to Intel's bottom line. My GPU gets a workout but my i7 6700 isn't getting seriously challenged, even by the most modern gaming engines. So my 6700K truly is Too Legit to Quit!
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