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Post by Coolverine on Oct 16, 2018 19:47:55 GMT -5
Just wanted to throw this out there in case anyone else has this same issue.
My soundcard (Soundblaster Z) kept disappearing from device manager every time my PC would go to sleep and wake up or get shut down and powered back on. Every time it did that, I would have to shut it down and disconnect the power for a few minutes to make the soundcard be detected again. Sometimes I would get lucky and it would still be there after a sleep or shut down though.
Yesterday the issue happened again, but after disconnecting the power and then reconnecting, my PC would not turn on. Switched out the power supply with a spare one and that got it back on, but not only that, the soundcard appears to be staying after switching out the power supply. I'll have to give it a few more times to know for sure, but so far my PC's slept and been shut down and the soundcard is still there.
The power supply I had installed before was a Corsair AX850, I'd had similar issues with it not powering on before in a different machine too. It's strange because everything worked perfectly as far as I could tell. I'd heard Corsairs were among the best power supplies, now I'm not so sure. The power supply I currently have installed is a CoolerMaster GX750W.
Might still get a new PSU, the Corsair one is modular but this CoolerMaster one is not. I really want a modular one for better cable management.
*edit* 3 shutdowns and 3 sleeps, soundcard is still there. I guess the issue was that Corsair PSU the whole time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 20:12:32 GMT -5
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Post by Coolverine on Oct 16, 2018 20:16:19 GMT -5
Oh yeah FSP is supposed to be very solid. I got a 400w Sparkle PSU (Sparkle is the same as FSP) that still works very well to this day, though it's not enough for the machine I have now. I still have it installed in an old Core2Duo machine which hasn't been used in a long time. PC Power & Cooling is also supposed to be very solid. I think I remember reading somewhere that this CoolerMaster 750w power supply I have has the same innards as PCP&C. *edit* Was looking at this one: www.amazon.com/PC-Power-Cooling-Semi-Modular-PPCMK3S750/dp/B00AXX0MZMIt's pricey on Amazon for some reason, but I can get it nearby from Fry's for $90.  Still pricey for a 750w power supply but it's a brand that I definitely trust. Was using a PCP&C 610w, it's around a decade old now and I haven't used it in a few years. I'm pretty sure it still works though. *edit* WOW, I just saw that CoolerMaster "Made In Japan" 1200w supply costs $1000. Crazy. |
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Post by Coolverine on Oct 19, 2018 23:01:34 GMT -5
Confirmed that my soundcard is now staying put after switching out the power supply, 3 days of being PC going to sleep and being shut down several times. I don't see how a power supply could be the cause of that issue, but I guess it's possible.
Haven't gotten around to buying a new power supply yet, but maybe tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 10:17:33 GMT -5
Confirmed that my soundcard is now staying put after switching out the power supply, 3 days of being PC going to sleep and being shut down several times. I don't see how a power supply could be the cause of that issue, but I guess it's possible.Haven't gotten around to buying a new power supply yet, but maybe tomorrow. It definitely can. I noticed something like that once, with a device not working properly just days before the PSU failed. Then it was fine again after replacing the PSU. In my experience, typically, one of the 1st things to go out on a PC is the PSU. PSU's and hdd's are the cash-cows for the PC hardware industry. And other parts, of course, if you go cheap and get the drek with shitty capacitors. |
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Post by Coolverine on Nov 7, 2018 18:08:55 GMT -5
Unfortunately dumbass Windows keeps installing the driver for the Recon3D instead of the Z. This was supposed to have been fixed by now but I guess not. If I restart a few times, it always rolls back to the correct driver though.
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Post by Coolverine on Nov 12, 2018 22:09:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 0:26:46 GMT -5
The Seasonic MTBF (mean time between failures) is rated at 150k hours and the warranty is 12 years. They're certainly confident in their product. But it's pricier too. I guess the longer warranty is like insurance. Each buyer has to decide if it's worth it or not. |
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Post by ForRealTho on Nov 13, 2018 8:37:43 GMT -5
Back when I was still building desktops I used PC Power & Cooling exclusively. Apparently they still exist but I don't know if they are as good as they were.
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Post by Coolverine on Nov 13, 2018 9:49:22 GMT -5
I feel like I'm leaning more toward the Seasonic.
Also I too am not sure about PCP&C quality now. They were bought by OCZ a while back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 15:30:51 GMT -5
Seasonic has a reputation for quality. Corsair or OCZ = sh!t (regarding their RAM and PSU's anyway).
I've never owned either brand of PSU. I'm sure that I've avoided Seasonic in the past due to its higher price (never owned a pricier PSU until the last one I purchased made by "FSP Group").
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Post by Coolverine on Nov 13, 2018 18:49:06 GMT -5
Yeah I remember hearing about their SSD's having high failure rates (OCZ).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 19:50:18 GMT -5
Yeah I remember hearing about their SSD's having high failure rates (OCZ). Yeah, that's what I hear about OCZ too. I've used Corsair RAM a few times in the past and they have high failure rates from my experience. Basically, you're buying overclocked RAM when you buy Corsair... supposedly, they test it and verify it can reach the advertised speeds (cherry pick the good ones), before selling it. Turns out that's not a recipe for reliable RAM. At least, that's how it was some years ago. |
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Post by Coolverine on Nov 13, 2018 20:38:34 GMT -5
I was not impressed with the Corsair 850w PSU I bought either. It seemed to be a great PSU, just that it would randomly not boot up after a while. I have noticed that if I take the Corsair PSU out for a while and then put it back in later, it will work for a time and then start having the problem again. That can't be good. It was replaced once under warranty, the replacement did the same thing and then they were asking to see proof of purchase to replace it again, which I no longer had. Not going to buy from Corsair ever again, not even a case.
*edit* I will say this about OCZ, I had a 610w PCP&C PSU and one day my videocard got fried. It was replaced under warranty, but when I got the replacement, I noticed a lot of artifacting in games. I decided to check to voltages of the PSU and the +12v was too high. I called PCP&C which turned out to be OCZ at that time, and they asked me to send it to them. They repaired it and sent it back to me, it worked flawlessly for quite some years after that.
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Post by Coolverine on Nov 16, 2018 20:00:50 GMT -5
I got the Seasonic 850w Titanium PSU, Microcenter here pricematched with Amazon for $189. Install was a breeze, works as expected. 12 year warranty. *edit* There's an on/off button on the back that says "Hybrid Mode" as near as I can tell, it just makes the fan run less which makes it quieter. I have Hybrid Mode off right now and it's still quieter than the PSU that was installed previously. *edit* Wow, Seasonic makes a 600w fanless power supply (also 80 Plus Titanium certified): www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Titanium-SSR-850TR-Modular-Warranty/dp/B01N9OLE9X?th=1I have heard that with fanless PSU's, you have to make sure your case has good airflow. |
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Post by Coolverine on Nov 26, 2018 10:10:49 GMT -5
Well, nearly 2 weeks after installing the new PSU, the soundcard issue came back - it disappeared again and would not be detected. Reset motherboard BIOS to default settings and then disabled onboard audio again, restarted and soundcard was detected. Also installed the new chipset drivers for my motherboard and reinstalled soundcard drivers, hopefully it stays put this time. The new chipset drivers did say they support Windows 10's 1803 update, so maybe that's been the issue all along.
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Post by Coolverine on Nov 28, 2018 20:04:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 20:19:34 GMT -5
I was not impressed with the Corsair 850w PSU I bought either. It seemed to be a great PSU, just that it would randomly not boot up after a while. I have noticed that if I take the Corsair PSU out for a while and then put it back in later, it will work for a time and then start having the problem again. That can't be good. It was replaced once under warranty, the replacement did the same thing and then they were asking to see proof of purchase to replace it again, which I no longer had. Not going to buy from Corsair ever again, not even a case. *edit* I will say this about OCZ, I had a 610w PCP&C PSU and one day my videocard got fried. It was replaced under warranty, but when I got the replacement, I noticed a lot of artifacting in games. I decided to check to voltages of the PSU and the +12v was too high. I called PCP&C which turned out to be OCZ at that time, and they asked me to send it to them. They repaired it and sent it back to me, it worked flawlessly for quite some years after that. Same thing might have happened to your sound card. If voltages delivered to your PC components is off, that can damage or fry them. Buying a good PSU is money well spent. |
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Post by Coolverine on Nov 30, 2018 4:58:31 GMT -5
I got this sound blaster Z well after I stopped using that particular PSU, although I was using it with the Corsair.
Hopefully the HDMI audio extractor will work for 5.1 on my speakers but I have a feeling it will only work for 2 channel and dolby/dts passthru.
If all else fails, I might just get a new soundcard, been looking at the Asus Xonar DGX, it's pretty cheap.
I found an HDMI audio extractor that has 3.5mm outputs for 5.1 but it costs nearly $300.
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Still pricey for a 750w power supply but it's a brand that I definitely trust. Was using a PCP&C 610w, it's around a decade old now and I haven't used it in a few years. I'm pretty sure it still works though.
