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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 16, 2017 0:25:47 GMT -5
So my laptop has been hitting thermal throttle a lot lately. I bought it in Sept 2015 and I have never changed the stock thermal paste.
Laptop will run at 3.6 ghz all day on a browser but in games it will throttle down to 2.8 ghz when playing something really demanding.
Ordered some of this stuff:
It is metal in a solution and its fucking ridiculous. 20c drops in temps.
I hope I don't fucking brick my laptop. Wish me luck.
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Post by Coolverine on Jun 16, 2017 8:05:14 GMT -5
Never heard of that one, always used Arctic Silver. If that one can really drop CPU temperature that much, I'll have to look into it. Probably time to re-seat my CPU heatsink too.
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Post by Babel-17 on Jun 16, 2017 10:27:13 GMT -5
Liquid metal you say? Here's hoping ...
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Post by Babel-17 on Jun 16, 2017 10:32:18 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 16, 2017 12:48:27 GMT -5
Never heard of that one, always used Arctic Silver. If that one can really drop CPU temperature that much, I'll have to look into it. Probably time to re-seat my CPU heatsink too. It cannot be used on aluminum as it corrodes it, it is literally just a bunch of metal in a liquid solution so it is very conductive so if you fuck up you fry your computer.
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Post by Coolverine on Jun 16, 2017 15:54:31 GMT -5
Sounds like that might be gallium.
And yeah, considering most CPU heatsinks are aluminum, it's probably best to not apply it for desktop CPU's.
This is what gallium does to aluminum:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 18:03:27 GMT -5
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Post by Coolverine on Jun 16, 2017 18:43:29 GMT -5
I have thought about doing that, but I don't really have a problem with CPU temps. I don't think it's worth the risk.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 16, 2017 18:48:31 GMT -5
Can't do that on a laptop.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 21:54:25 GMT -5
Can't do that on a laptop. I've heard that laptop cpu's can't be removed, so I know what you're saying. But what caught my attention and made me consider the possibility were some posts in the thread/link mentioning something about a sanding method to expose the cpu die. Supposedly, it's much safer (though, more labor intensive) than decapping a cpu. Of course, probably not something most ppl would want to attempt on a laptop cpu. However, i did a quick google search and found that there are ppl who've done it. forum.notebookreview.com/threads/lapping-a-laptop-cpu.333739/I agree w/ Zombie and I doubt I'd ever try it either due to the risk. Way back when, I successfully modded a PS1 (on my 1st attempt too), to remove the copy protection (allowed playing import games). That job involved soldering wires onto the PS1 mainboard and took some effort to not brick the PS1. I built a new PC rig not long ago and I've been thinking about adding liquid cooling for the cpu (and possibly gpu). Probably not an easy job, given it's a micro-atx case and I've never attempted a liquid cooling rig before. However, it's a decent size case for a micro-atx... www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-o6s/
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 17, 2017 22:02:52 GMT -5
Way back when, I successfully modded a PS1 (on my 1st attempt too), to remove the copy protection (allowed playing import games). That job involved soldering wires onto the PS1 mainboard and took some effort to not brick the PS1. Well luckily this doesn't require solder but if you do it wrong you can short out your board. Already horror stories online about this. I am going to go very slow and I already got the same brand of electrical tape they recommend to cover everything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 22:16:52 GMT -5
Way back when, I successfully modded a PS1 (on my 1st attempt too), to remove the copy protection (allowed playing import games). That job involved soldering wires onto the PS1 mainboard and took some effort to not brick the PS1. Well luckily this doesn't require solder but if you do it wrong you can short out your board. Already horror stories online about this. I am going to go very slow and I already got the same brand of electrical tape they recommend to cover everything. It'll be worth it if you succeed. Best of luck.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 22:17:53 GMT -5
Unrelated... but since there's no car forum anymore, I'll post it here. I found a good youtube vid for repairing the oxidation on car headlights. Car headlights are expensive, so it could be a useful video for people who have more time than money.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 17, 2017 22:20:45 GMT -5
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Post by Coolverine on Jun 18, 2017 8:08:39 GMT -5
Unrelated... but since there's no car forum anymore, I'll post it here. I found a good youtube vid for repairing the oxidation on car headlights. Car headlights are expensive, so it could be a useful video for people who have more time than money. I heard toothpaste works for that too, but I don't know, never tried it myself.
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Post by Cop on Jun 18, 2017 13:53:23 GMT -5
Unrelated... but since there's no car forum anymore, I'll post it here. I found a good youtube vid for repairing the oxidation on car headlights. Car headlights are expensive, so it could be a useful video for people who have more time than money. I can't believe I watched the whole thing and I don't even need to do any of that (yet)...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 16:28:26 GMT -5
Unrelated... but since there's no car forum anymore, I'll post it here. I found a good youtube vid for repairing the oxidation on car headlights. Car headlights are expensive, so it could be a useful video for people who have more time than money. I can't believe I watched the whole thing and I don't even need to do any of that (yet)... I need it for my car's headlights.. That's why i searched for it initially, about a week before this thread was created. I had the headlights professionally buffed out less than a year ago too. Not worth it and I advise against paying for such service, as it's already back to hazy/yellowish headlights. I'll need to do what's in the video or replace the headlights, for a long lasting fix.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 16:34:14 GMT -5
Yo, Vinney!
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 18, 2017 16:39:38 GMT -5
Yo, Vinney! No I mean you said there is no car forum................there is an Off Topic forum for literally any subject.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 18, 2017 22:21:04 GMT -5
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Post by Emig5m on Jun 18, 2017 23:54:08 GMT -5
Use sun screen to restore headlights. Trust me, just do it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 10:22:23 GMT -5
Looks great. The 6xxx series of Intel cpu's are a good because it's the last generation that you can still run Windows 7 on, or so I've read. Some of the lesser known brands of laptops have excellent specs... actual desktop cpu's! Granted, one could argue that battery life and portability/weight of these type of laptops almost defeat the purpose of owning a laptop. www.eluktronics.com/p775dm3-g-1080-RTS-512gb-16gbBut it's an option worth considering, for ppl who don't tote their laptops around everywhere they go. Look at the huge performance difference - desktop vs. mobile version of the 6700. cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ/3502vsm34954
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 13:23:04 GMT -5
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Post by Cop on Jun 19, 2017 14:11:20 GMT -5
Why bother with 4K on that small a screen though? Reminds me of those full HD phones... Can't even see the difference between 720p and 1080p movies on my 32" TV, why bother with that on a tiny phone screen. It's all just numbers to jack up specs (and prices)...
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 19, 2017 14:52:50 GMT -5
Why bother with 4K on that small a screen though? Reminds me of those full HD phones... Can't even see the difference between 720p and 1080p movies on my 32" TV, why bother with that on a tiny phone screen. It's all just numbers to jack up specs (and prices)... This. I am perfectly fine with 1080p I don't really care. One of my coworkers has dual 4k monitors. That rad and all but I don't need all that.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 19, 2017 18:03:15 GMT -5
The laptop I just ordered comes with a 256 gig SSD and a 1 TB HD.
The laptop I am on now just has a 1 TB Samsung 850 Evo SSD.
So when the new one gets here I am going to yank out HD, replace it with my 1 TB SSD. Done.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 18:43:06 GMT -5
Why bother with 4K on that small a screen though? Reminds me of those full HD phones... Can't even see the difference between 720p and 1080p movies on my 32" TV, why bother with that on a tiny phone screen. It's all just numbers to jack up specs (and prices)... Windows allows you to scale up the size of text, so the text would be crystal clear without being too small. Of course, games get lower fps when driving a 4K resolution and the difference isn't that noticeable on a 17" screen. yeah, for gaming on a laptop, it's not ideal. The 4K on laptops is probably just a "nice to have" feature for those who use their laptop for work also. However, for larger PC monitors (27"+), I believe higher resolution is better (1080P good, 2K better, 4K/5K best). You really notice the difference when sitting relatively close to the screen, as with a PC monitor. I have one of those 2K widescreen monitors for my PC (34", 21:9 aspect, 3440x1440 resolution) for gaming and I see the difference in clarity, including with text. Regarding HDTV's, I think there's less benefit to 4K even w/ much larger screens (because the viewing distance is typically far enough for most ppl that you can't see the difference between 1080P and 4K... unless your TV is 70"+ or you have hawk-like vision). Here's a good chart on it. 4k.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/resolution_chart.jpgAs the following article explains about 4K TV's, manufacturers add extra color & contrast (such as "HDR") enhancing features, above & beyond what you find in most 1080P TV's. So there are other technical reasons 4K HDTV's look better, even if the higher resolution isn't the chief reason. 4k.com/resolution/Also, unlike 4K TV's, 4K PC monitors don't yet have extra features like HDR. I read those monitors are coming later this year. And the ones w/ Gsync will be ridiculously expensive.
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Post by Cop on Jun 20, 2017 9:46:32 GMT -5
As long as the black still isn't as black as CRT black (in a darkened room), I don't care what else they add. That is the only thing they need to do right with new screens because it's a lot more noticable than anything else out there...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 10:41:38 GMT -5
Some manufacturers have thought of that and put out a competing product in the past. Plasma TV's were rejected by consumers. Panasonic plasmas competed well on price and were rated pretty good in picture quality, so I wouldn't put the blame on the manufacturer.
Backlit LCD/LED is what most consumers wanted, so that's what we're stuck with (for now). I mean, if you needed to go out and buy a new monitor today (and didn't want to spend excessive coin on OLED), what choice do you have?
imo, the current best choice available for monitors with (better) black levels at a decent price are the ones with a VA panel. VA isn't perfect and has its weaknesses, but it's way better than IPS at black levels.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 23:09:24 GMT -5
Yeah, nice desktop replacement. Wise move ordering a refurb. What they're charging for decently spec'd gaming laptops these days is absurd. Today, I ordered a new Alienware 15. With a coupon code, this is the cheapest new laptop w/ a 1070 gpu that I've seen. www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/alienware-15/spd/alienware-15-laptop/dkcwf03hbcl1$1330 (with coupon on their site), before taxes - not bad for a new gaming laptop w/ decent specs. It has similar specs to your Acer - same cpu, gpu, ssd/hdd capacities. Except, the model I ordered has no g-sync, a smaller screen, and only 8GB RAM (which I'll eventually upgrade). On the plus side, it accepts ram rated at 2667MHz. Also, it has a Thunderbolt port and excellent battery capacity (99 W/hr). Yea, the Alienware 15 laptop should be truly portable, spend less time plugged in & charging, which is what I was looking for. Also, a sturdy construction, chassis w/ magnesium alloy. Of course, those features (large battery, metal chassis) add to the weight. @7.26lbs, it's quite heavy for a 15.6" laptop.
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