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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 20, 2019 22:12:14 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 23, 2019 22:51:22 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 24, 2019 10:05:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 11:54:48 GMT -5
All due respect, but where besides California do Chicanas dress & get all tatted up like gangstas? I've lived in Texas most of my life and haven't seen it there.
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 25, 2019 14:26:33 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 27, 2019 14:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 19:15:28 GMT -5
I heard in one of Overlord DVD's videos that the new Ariel will be black. Not that there's anything wrong with that, except that we know it's for the wokeness and scoring social justice points from left-leaning movie critics. Also, mermaids living at the bottom of sea need extra melanin for all the UV exposure they get down there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2019 19:35:46 GMT -5
To my shame, I heard that the live action Beauty and the Beast was good, so I watched it. It was cringe, as you'd expect. The bad guy seemed like the better choice for her at first. It wasn't revealed that he was bad until after she rejected him and fell in love with the Beast (who was a huge A-hole in the beginning). It fulfilled all the stereotypes about women being entitled and going for the jerks, and magically reforming the jerk to uncover a great man within the bad-boy exterior.
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 27, 2019 21:08:39 GMT -5
To my shame, I heard that the live action Beauty and the Beast was good, so I watched it. It was cringe, as you'd expect. The bad guy seemed like the better choice for her at first. It wasn't revealed that he was bad until after she rejected him and fell in love with the Beast (who was a huge A-hole in the beginning). It fulfilled all the stereotypes about women being entitled and going for the jerks, and magically reforming the jerk to uncover a great man within the bad-boy exterior. The last Disney movie I watched was Frozen. I checked it out because a Mormon "mommy blogger" made a now deleted blog post where she said that Frozen was a "liberal indoctrination piece" made to promote the "gay agenda", it was like reading an Onion article but she was 100% serious. I watched Frozen trying to find any deeper hidden meaning or subtext and I didn't see it. The only "message" I saw in Frozen is don't rush headlong into rash decisions which isn't a bad moral for a kids movie.
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 27, 2019 21:49:47 GMT -5
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Post by Cop on Oct 28, 2019 9:51:40 GMT -5
I haven't bothered with any of the live-action Disney movies. I just don't see the point and to be honest, they're not even the kind of movies I'd want to watch anyway but even then I think they're soulless cash grabs. Scorcese and Coppola were criticising the Marvel movies recently but I think their criticism applies even more to the live-action remakes. At least the Marvel movies are somewhat original.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 10:06:12 GMT -5
Hollywood's been going overboard with the remakes because they hire too many hack writers who lack imagination and new ideas. Many of them were hired out of nepotism and/or they're "good fit" for the wokeness agenda (such as Kathleen Kennedy's all-female "The Force is Female" team of writers). Honestly, two of them look like they're fresh out of high school and would have very little experience writing SciFi. That's my theory anyway.
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 28, 2019 10:19:53 GMT -5
I haven't bothered with any of the live-action Disney movies. I just don't see the point and to be honest, they're not even the kind of movies I'd want to watch anyway but even then I think they're soulless cash grabs. Scorcese and Coppola were criticising the Marvel movies recently but I think their criticism applies even more to the live-action remakes. At least the Marvel movies are somewhat original. I only watched Frozen to see if there way any weight to that woman's conspiracy theory that Frozen was actually about gayness.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 10:41:46 GMT -5
I haven't bothered with any of the live-action Disney movies. I just don't see the point and to be honest, they're not even the kind of movies I'd want to watch anyway but even then I think they're soulless cash grabs. Scorcese and Coppola were criticising the Marvel movies recently but I think their criticism applies even more to the live-action remakes. At least the Marvel movies are somewhat original. I only watched Frozen to see if there way any weight to that woman's conspiracy theory that Frozen was actually about gayness. I don't watch many of the Disney live action movies either. Beauty and the Beast and John Carter were the only two I recall watching. Well, I'm not sure that John Carter was technically a remake, but it was mediocre movie and borrowed heavily from Avatar (especially with the oppressed Aliens narrative). I haven't watched Frozen, but I've heard of the controversy that it's about gays and I read some from the link you just posted. If it's not explicit and the main character isn't trying to hook up with women, i'd saying they're reading too much into it and making mountains out of mole hills. Sure, I could see how gays might be an underlying theme intended for the adult audience, but the notion that kids would be turned gay by deeply abstract & buried theme w/ zero explicit references to gays or the gay lifestyle is a big stretch. If I had to guess, I'd say they're basing their suspicions on it having the gay theme by comparing Frozen to the prior Disney films with female leads, where the female lead characters are almost always seeking a prince charming (and Frozen doesn't have this plot element?).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 14:16:25 GMT -5
I haven't bothered with any of the live-action Disney movies. I just don't see the point and to be honest, they're not even the kind of movies I'd want to watch anyway but even then I think they're soulless cash grabs. Scorcese and Coppola were criticising the Marvel movies recently but I think their criticism applies even more to the live-action remakes. At least the Marvel movies are somewhat original. You've made a smart move building up your physical collection of movies. What's next, book burnings?
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 28, 2019 15:51:54 GMT -5
I haven't watched Frozen, but I've heard of the controversy that it's about gays and I read some from the link you just posted. If it's not explicit and the main character isn't trying to hook up with women, i'd saying they're reading too much into it and making mountains out of mole hills. Sure, I could see how gays might be an underlying theme intended for the adult audience, but the notion that kids would be turned gay by deeply abstract & buried theme w/ zero explicit references to gays or the gay lifestyle is a big stretch. If I had to guess, I'd say they're basing their suspicions on it having the gay theme by comparing Frozen to the prior Disney films with female leads, where the female lead characters are almost always seeking a prince charming (and Frozen doesn't have this plot element?). That blog post has to be taken in the cultural context of the time it was posted in 2014. The blogger is Mormon and the LDS Church dedicated a LOT of time and money to fighting against gay marriage and basically made it into a sort of Jihad. Mormons have traditionally been one of the most anti-gay religious groups. If you have any interest in the topic there is a documentary called "8 The Mormon proposition" about this. Prop 8 in California had millions of Mormon dollars behind it. Gay marriage was passing all over the country and it was seen as this huge culture war. Similar to the McCarthy era where people saw Communists everywhere its understandable she would see gay connections in everything, it still doesn't make what she is saying valid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 17:09:37 GMT -5
I haven't watched Frozen, but I've heard of the controversy that it's about gays and I read some from the link you just posted. If it's not explicit and the main character isn't trying to hook up with women, i'd saying they're reading too much into it and making mountains out of mole hills. Sure, I could see how gays might be an underlying theme intended for the adult audience, but the notion that kids would be turned gay by deeply abstract & buried theme w/ zero explicit references to gays or the gay lifestyle is a big stretch. If I had to guess, I'd say they're basing their suspicions on it having the gay theme by comparing Frozen to the prior Disney films with female leads, where the female lead characters are almost always seeking a prince charming (and Frozen doesn't have this plot element?). That blog post has to be taken in the cultural context of the time it was posted in 2014. The blogger is Mormon and the LDS Church dedicated a LOT of time and money to fighting against gay marriage and basically made it into a sort of Jihad. Mormons have traditionally been one of the most anti-gay religious groups. If you have any interest in the topic there is a documentary called "8 The Mormon proposition" about this. Prop 8 in California had millions of Mormon dollars behind it. Gay marriage was passing all over the country and it was seen as this huge culture war. Similar to the McCarthy era where people saw Communists everywhere its understandable she would see gay connections in everything, it still doesn't make what she is saying valid. Maybe, except on a smaller scale. This movie has 85% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes and there's a sequel (I've seen signs up for it at the grocery store), so I don't think most people bought into this particular conspiracy theory. www.rottentomatoes.com/m/frozen_2013/
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Post by ForRealTho on Oct 28, 2019 17:40:18 GMT -5
Sure, I could see how gays might be an underlying theme intended for the adult audience, but the notion that kids would be turned gay by deeply abstract & buried theme w/ zero explicit references to gays or the gay lifestyle is a big stretch. Speaking of little kids not catching onto themes, when I was a kid we had all of Arnies movies on VHS. We used to watch them a lot. There is a scene in Raw Deal where he goes into a gay bar and they threaten some dude in a room full of drag queens. My brain didn't even catch onto what was happening. It wasn't till I watched it again as a teenager that I even noticed. I found a copy of the scene on Youtube but only in like Hungarian or something lol. Also terrible movie in retrospect:
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Post by Cop on Oct 29, 2019 14:15:22 GMT -5
What's next, book burnings? With all these far-right wingers coming into power all over the world, even in Belgium, that doesn't seem too far off anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 16:43:57 GMT -5
What's next, book burnings? With all these far-right wingers coming into power all over the world, even in Belgium, that doesn't seem too far off anymore. Right-wingers opposition to mass immigration from the ME (and that qualifying them as far-right, alt-right, or Nazis) should be the least of your worries. What you should really watch out for is when they start giving corporations more rights than individuals. In the U.S. today, it's dangerous and careless to depend on a corporate job for one's livelihood. Pay attention to how this guy's parents were screwed/sued by their former employer and couldn't even qualify to rent an apartment. Basically, if you don't have friends or family to take you in and a corporation/former employer decides to screw you over, you could wind up homeless. The way the legal system operates here, a person can be sued for more than his/her savings and/or current pay. They'll sabotage your credit rating (making it so you can't rent an apartment or qualify for future employment elsewhere) and potentially garnish your wages 'til the day you die (if you decide to start your own business and they sue you for breaking a non-compete agreement)! I knew a guy that this happened to (although, he was sued into financial oblivion by other parents, which resulted in a lifetime garnishment of his wages, because his son was driving drunk and all the kids died in the car crash). Similar sort of thing can happen to a U.S. citizen who has one major ("catastrophic") medical problem, costing them hundreds of thousands of $'s or more (such as with an organ transplant), leaving the person destitute for the remainder of his/her life. Personally, I see various forms of extremism coming from both sides of the political spectrum and neither are good. It's such a broad topic, I could discuss it almost indefinitely. But I understand ppl get tired of it and prefer the ease & comfort of viewing politics as a team sport, so I'll put a sock in it.
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