Yet, people freak out and arrests are made (for ppl going out in public or not wearing masks) over a virus with a 1% mortality rate (of those infected).
Whats funny about this coronavirus situation is watching "Pro-Life" people do a 180. I don't really argue about politics anymore but I remember back in the late 1990s when I still I talked to people who said abortion was their number 1 issue. I believe Opus512 who used to post on SCMB said his mother was a one issue voter and she voted Republican every election to stop abortion.
When I was talking to these people they did not even want exception for rape/incest or the life of the mother. I explained the fallout from this, in one latin american country where abortion is illegal a girl just hung herself since abortion wasn't available for one example. They said to me "That is unfortunate but abortion stops a beating heart and ends a human life so regardless of the consequences if it saves one baby ending abortion is the right thing to do."
I really really wish I still knew this people who are undoubtedly Trump supporters in 2020. The right wing in this country is saying they should be able to walk around without masks and go to work even if it kills people because of their "rights". Also side note these same people told me Bill Clinton was awful because the morals of the leader of a nation is the most important thing and he was too immoral to be President, no doubt they love "come up on her like a bitch and grab her by the pussy" Trump.
They don't actually believe in anything but "owning the libs". Obama or Hilary or AOC could say "Hey I took up science in my spare time and I have the cure of cancer, isn't that cool?" and they would be like "Well CANCER IS A GOOD THING WE NEED TO THIN THE HERD!"
Yet, people freak out and arrests are made (for ppl going out in public or not wearing masks) over a virus with a 1% mortality rate (of those infected).
Whats funny about this coronavirus situation is watching "Pro-Life" people do a 180. I don't really argue about politics anymore but I remember back in the late 1990s when I still I talked to people who said abortion was their number 1 issue. I believe Opus512 who used to post on SCMB said his mother was a one issue voter and she voted Republican every election to stop abortion.
When I was talking to these people they did not even want exception for rape/incest or the life of the mother. I explained the fallout from this, in one latin american country where abortion is illegal a girl just hung herself since abortion wasn't available for one example. They said to me "That is unfortunate but abortion stops a beating heart and ends a human life so regardless of the consequences if it saves one baby ending abortion is the right thing to do."
I really really wish I still knew this people who are undoubtedly Trump supporters in 2020. The right wing in this country is saying they should be able to walk around without masks and go to work even if it kills people because of their "rights". Also side note these same people told me Bill Clinton was awful because the morals of the leader of a nation is the most important thing and he was too immoral to be President, no doubt they love "come up on her like a bitch and grab her by the pussy" Trump.
They don't actually believe in anything but "owning the libs". Obama or Hilary or AOC could say "Hey I took up science in my spare time and I have the cure of cancer, isn't that cool?" and they would be like "Well CANCER IS A GOOD THING WE NEED TO THIN THE HERD!"
I just think the whole "everybody must wear masks" is a facade because, plain & simple, most of the masks don't work. Only those issued to the medical community, with the N95 rating or whatever, are actually effective. Even many of the masks with this rating (ones coming out of China) have been tested & found to not actually meet the standard and were subsequently destroyed.
If they could get everybody the certified 95% filtration masks that are tested and meet the medical standard, then the mask initiative wouldn't seem like it's just about control and/or those in high places power tripping.
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I just think the whole "everybody must wear masks" is a facade because, plain & simple, most of the masks don't work. Only those issued to the medical community, with the N95 rating or whatever, are actually effective. Even many of the masks with this rating (ones coming out of China) have been tested & found to not actually meet the standard and were subsequently destroyed.
If they could get everybody the certified 95% filtration masks that are tested and meet the medical standard, then the mask initiative wouldn't seem like it's just about control and/or those in high places power tripping.
Even if it isn't a full medical grade mask keeping particulate trapped in the mask is better then letting it go free. Like cover your mouth when you cough. Basic stuff.
How in the world is it about "control or power tripping" when I never in my whole life every heard someone demand people wear masks before the pandemic? Its a world wide thing to stop the spread of a disease this is self explanatory.
Let me guess you think Trump is a big tough badass for refusing to wear a mask for so long?
I just think the whole "everybody must wear masks" is a facade because, plain & simple, most of the masks don't work. Only those issued to the medical community, with the N95 rating or whatever, are actually effective. Even many of the masks with this rating (ones coming out of China) have been tested & found to not actually meet the standard and were subsequently destroyed.
If they could get everybody the certified 95% filtration masks that are tested and meet the medical standard, then the mask initiative wouldn't seem like it's just about control and/or those in high places power tripping.
Even if it isn't a full medical grade mask keeping particulate trapped in the mask is better then letting it go free. Like cover your mouth when you cough. Basic stuff.
How in the world is it about "control or power tripping" when I never in my whole life every heard someone demand people wear masks before the pandemic? Its a world wide thing to stop the spread of a disease this is self explanatory.
Let me guess you think Trump is a big tough badass for refusing to wear a mask for so long?
Nah, what I read is from medical professionals. They destroy masks that are tested and don't meet the standards because, in their words, those masks aren't effective.
Here's what I think. The masks requirement gives people a false sense of security, so they're less likely to practice steps that actually work, such as 6ft social distancing.
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Nah, what I read is from medical professionals. They destroy masks that are tested and don't meet the standards because, in their words, those masks aren't effective.
Here's what I think. The masks requirement gives people a false sense of security, so they're less likely to practice steps that actually work, such as 6ft social distancing.
A condom with a hole in it is better then no condom at all.
Put a mask on, try to spit. What happens? Now when you breathe in and out there is particulate you can't see that floats in the air. Same thing. This is elementary school stuff really.
What I thinks going on is you consume a lot of right wing media from what I recall and like I said before the right has latched onto this "no masks cuz of muh freeedum!" crap in the middle of a global pandemic and you buy into it for whatever reason.
Also if it was "power tripping" why did I never see this before Coronavirus? Its a worldwide conspiracy to powertrip?
Nah, what I read is from medical professionals. They destroy masks that are tested and don't meet the standards because, in their words, those masks aren't effective.
Here's what I think. The masks requirement gives people a false sense of security, so they're less likely to practice steps that actually work, such as 6ft social distancing.
A condom with a hole in it is better then no condom at all.
Put a mask on, try to spit. What happens? Now when you breathe in and out there is particulate you can't see that floats in the air. Same thing. This is elementary school stuff really.
What I thinks going on is you consume a lot of right wing media from what I recall and like I said before the right has latched onto this "no masks cuz of muh freeedum!" crap in the middle of a global pandemic and you buy into it for whatever reason.
Also if it was "power tripping" why did I never see this before Coronavirus? Its a worldwide conspiracy to powertrip?
Chill, dude. I got this from the MSN I posted 2+ months ago in Emig5m's Corona Virus thread.. Wild tangents about abortion, Trump, politics, and right-wing media have nothing to do with anything I've said here.
I've purchased masks for myself and my parents months before they were a legal requirement (both in Ohio statewide and in my part of TN). Of course, that was before I read the MSN article (a left-wing news outlet), quoting highly reputable doctors that most masks aren't effective.
I get your point about poor quality masks still containing some of the C-19 droplets. However, I've seen people in stores (including employees) take their masks off just to converse. How likely is it really that every person with a cough or sneeze is going to keep their masks on? I imagine it would be uncomfortable to wear a mask during a cough or sneeze, and many ppl would instinctively remove them during that.
I've purchased masks for myself and my parents months before they were a legal requirement (both in Ohio statewide and in my part of TN). Of course, that was before I read the MSN article (a left-wing news outlet), quoting highly reputable doctors that most masks aren't effective.
I get your point about poor quality masks still containing some of the C-19 droplets. However, I've seen people in stores (including employees) take their masks off just to converse. How likely is it really that every person with a cough or sneeze is going to keep their masks on? I imagine it would be uncomfortable to wear a mask during a cough or sneeze, and many ppl would instinctively remove them during that.
Just because some people take their mask off that doesn't make masks ineffective when they are used by others.
Thats like saying some people drive without their seat belts on so there is no point in putting them in cars or wearing them. Or some people ride a motorcycle with no helmet so why do we even have helmets. I'm struggling to understand your point? Yeah if people don't use something right it doesn't work as well.
I try and cover my mouth or turn my head when I cough, that doesn't magically block the particles from getting in the air but its a lot better then nothing.
I've purchased masks for myself and my parents months before they were a legal requirement (both in Ohio statewide and in my part of TN). Of course, that was before I read the MSN article (a left-wing news outlet), quoting highly reputable doctors that most masks aren't effective.
I get your point about poor quality masks still containing some of the C-19 droplets. However, I've seen people in stores (including employees) take their masks off just to converse. How likely is it really that every person with a cough or sneeze is going to keep their masks on? I imagine it would be uncomfortable to wear a mask during a cough or sneeze, and many ppl would instinctively remove them during that.
Just because some people take their mask off that doesn't make masks ineffective when they are used by others.
Thats like saying some people drive without their seat belts on so there is no point in putting them in cars or wearing them. Or some people ride a motorcycle with no helmet so why do we even have helmets. I'm struggling to understand your point? Yeah if people don't use something right it doesn't work as well.
I try and cover my mouth or turn my head when I cough, that doesn't magically block the particles from getting in the air but its a lot better then nothing.
In the article I pointed you to, the medical professionals say the masks aren't effective. That's my point.
My pov isn't political, because I reside in one of the reddest states and Repubs here passed the mask laws. I stand by the power tripping motive as the reason for these laws, unless they can point to the study that shows most of the masks sold at Amazon are effective. As far as power tripping goes, consider the $150+ trillion in unfunded (social security + medicare) liabilities (w/ both Democrats and Republicans, the majority of elected officials being responsible). This is debt that taxpayers have to pay back (but probably can't) and they never got a vote on it (because both parties have a firm grasp on power and both believe in unrealistic, unsustainable debt levels).
Edit: I don't condone not wearing masks. I wear them, because it's the law where I live. Nothing wrong with nitpicking motives behind these laws though, imo, factoring in medical professionals' statements on the effectiveness. The masks' effectiveness (or lack thereof) in and of itself is more an issue w/ China-made piss poor quality than anything.
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Self mutilation can occur in the mentally ill too. I trained for one year in a hospital as an X-ray tech (i made all A's, but voluntarily dropped out because I wasn't good at the emotional aspect of dealing with depressed patients) and saw a hand X-ray of a patient who gnawed her fingertips to the bone. Another student said it looked like the patient had put her fingers in a pencil sharpener.
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Even in a Radiology program (which you might think isn't that bad), they make you do rotations in most areas of the hospital, including the ER (where you might see victims with multiple stab wounds, in shock and convulsing in puddles of their own blood).