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Post by sj on Nov 6, 2024 8:30:40 GMT -5
Wow. Kamala didn't win any of the key swing states. imo, the DNC should've considered that she never won a primary and she placed last (or 2nd to last) when she did run in the Democrat primaries. Despite her being one of the least popular Democrats, it was actually close (on the popular vote), with Trump only winning by 1 or a few percentage points in many battleground states. Makes u wonder what could have been if the Democrats chose a more popular candidate (i.e. held another primary rather than defaulting to Kamala).
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Post by ForRealTho on Nov 6, 2024 8:50:08 GMT -5
That is what I was thinking, the fact that she is a woman and Indian/black doesn't help with a certain percent of the electorate as well. I remember back in 2008 thinking there is no way that a bunch of old racists will EVER vote for a black guy named "Barak Obama" so McCain would win by a few percent. I was wrong. Then in 2012 I was living in rural Arizona. Mormon country, working for a Mormon owned business. Everyone was on fire for Romney. There was some Mormon prophecy about a Mormon coming in to save the country and they said Romney was this person.
When I got to work the next day...........holy shit.....it was like a funeral. The owner and many top employees were very downcast. Every single one was Mormon.
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Post by sj on Nov 6, 2024 11:41:47 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Nov 6, 2024 11:44:35 GMT -5
However, I'd agree that her being a female candidate probably hurt her chances. I read something a while back to the effect that even a significant percentage of American women prefer male candidates for president. There's clearly at least some degree of bias for male leadership in American culture.
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Post by sj on Nov 6, 2024 11:56:21 GMT -5
Also, remember how popular Colin Powell (RIP) was among Republicans. He could've been president, had he chose to run. That's why I wouldn't be so quick to say it's all about a candidate's race.
Yeah, he lied about the WMDs. But he also publicly apologized for lying (having lied at the behest/orders of G-Dubya's administration, probably against his better judgement) about Iraq's capacity for WMDs, so at least he had some shame about it.
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Post by ForRealTho on Nov 6, 2024 12:36:45 GMT -5
As someone was pointing out on another site. Biden needed to withdrawal from the next race back in 2023, then the Democrats should have had an actual convention. Not just pick Harris. Find someone more likeable.
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Post by ForRealTho on Nov 6, 2024 13:15:53 GMT -5
I remember back in 2016 right after Trump won, someone on a conservative subreddit was like "What we are seeing here is the death of the democratic party, do you want to know why Trump won? I'll give you two words Gay Marriage. The people NEVER voted for this. Instead activist judges pushed this change in the definition of the meaning of the word on the people. This is what you get" Gay marriage only became a thing in 2015 nation wide Interesting support for gay marriage is pretty much universal today. Back in 2008 outside forces spent millions of dollars getting Prop 8 passed in California. One of the ballot measures there overturned Prop 8 by a huge margin:
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Post by sj on Nov 6, 2024 13:37:13 GMT -5
As someone was pointing out on another site. Biden needed to withdrawal from the next race back in 2023, then the Democrats should have had an actual convention. Not just pick Harris. Find someone more likeable. Absolutely. Of course, the Republicans were the first to point out Biden's mental decline and Democrat's natural instinct was to push back against that. It'd likely have been same thing happening even if the roles were reversed and Trump had the faster mental decline rather than Biden. So I'm saying it's more a human phenomenon than a political one. Arguably, their delay to admit Biden's mental state was/is too far gone (to be able to serve in the world's most powerful leadership position), is a case where human's primitive instinct backfires in the modern world/civilization, tech, socioeconcomics, etc. Basically, the world we humans created is way too complex nowadays for any of us to rely primarily on instinct. Our "lizard brain" (which evolutionary Biologists and Psychologists say we still retain from our earlier mya evolution) no longer serves much useful purpose in decision making (except in rare circumstances, like physical fighting) and/or telling us to take care of our basic needs first such as eating.
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Post by sj on Nov 6, 2024 13:56:50 GMT -5
I remember back in 2016 right after Trump won, someone on a conservative subreddit was like "What we are seeing here is the death of the democratic party, do you want to know why Trump won? I'll give you two words Gay Marriage. The people NEVER voted for this. Instead activist judges pushed this change in the definition of the meaning of the word on the people. This is what you get" Gay marriage only became a thing in 2015 nation wide Interesting support for gay marriage is pretty much universal today. Back in 2008 outside forces spent millions of dollars getting Prop 8 passed in California. One of the ballot measures there overturned Prop 8 by a huge margin: imo, the gay/lesbian communities made rapid progress because they went about things much more intelligently than other groups/identities. Such as, they put the onus on themselves to "come out" and they chose symbols (like the rainbow, earrings on the right ear) in order to self-identify, rather than expecting society at large to be mind-readers and/or ask for their identities. To be blunt, having to ask someone for their gender identity (to avoid offending or misgendering them) is hella awkward & embarrassing and therefore nobody does it.. and that's despite society at large being almost constantly & mercilessly shamed by our social engineering for not following these relatively new set of social protocols.
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Post by sj on Nov 6, 2024 19:13:42 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Nov 9, 2024 10:37:59 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Nov 10, 2024 19:57:15 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Nov 13, 2024 8:02:05 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Nov 13, 2024 12:27:48 GMT -5
Trump oftentimes sounds like an idiot, but this move is actually 4D evil genius. Soros mastered how to control politics at the local level. He discovered that you get much greater ROI (trading $'s for political influence) by funding local politics vs national. Trump probably wants to tap into this, so that he'll have more political power and his policies can/will be more accepted/influencial at local levels.
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Post by sj on Nov 14, 2024 6:17:26 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Nov 14, 2024 8:13:17 GMT -5
The Trump victory has already proven to be reversal of fortune for me personally. Less than a week after he won, my bank sent me a pre-approval letter for a $140k mortgage and I didn't even apply (yet).
I tried under Obama (and I had close to 800 credit score at the time) - declined. I tried applying again under Biden (with my father, a former Military vet, as the signer.. a few years ago) - declined. As soon as Trump wins (not even president yet) - you're already approved even though you haven't applied (and no co-signer required).
I'm not sure what's going on. But for whatever reason, the banks currently don't seem to care what your credit score is and are willing to approve based solely on your income (more like how finances work in Europe, i imagine). Maybe they removed DEI quotas for approvals, freeing up money to loan to ppl with qualifying incomes. Regardless of what's going with the banks, qualifying for buying a home is a first for me.
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Post by sj on Nov 14, 2024 8:20:03 GMT -5
I didn't vote for Trump either. Just sayin what's happening from my pov.
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Post by ForRealTho on Nov 14, 2024 13:03:20 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Nov 14, 2024 13:07:09 GMT -5
I didn't vote for Trump either. Just sayin what's happening from my pov. I do IT for a living but I technically work in fossil fuels so depending on what happens with certain regulations I could come out ahead, but I realize me getting a bigger bonus is a smaller concern compared to idiotic Tariffs www.investopedia.com/terms/s/smoot-hawley-tariff-act.asp#:~:text=The%20Smoot%2DHawley%20Tariff%20Act%20of%201930%20raised%20U.S.%20import,U.S.%20and%20around%20the%20world. Economics 101, tariffs are a nightmare. Unless every single economist over the last 75 years is involved in a big conspiracy to make Trump look bad. I don't recall his name but during Trumps first term some lifelong small government conservative explained in depth how tariffs and trade wars are a nightmare and just make everyone poorer around the time Trump started promoting them..................he promptly got numerous death threats and Trump supporters even found his daughters Facebook and threatened to kill her as well. All for stating basic economics.
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Post by Cop on Nov 14, 2024 13:28:20 GMT -5
Well, after all that's already happened and everything that may or may not happen after he's sworn in, at least we can all say we were there when it happened and claim to have been on whatever side looks best at the particular time of explaining ourselves...
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Post by sj on Nov 14, 2024 14:48:19 GMT -5
I didn't vote for Trump either. Just sayin what's happening from my pov. I do IT for a living but I technically work in fossil fuels so depending on what happens with certain regulations I could come out ahead, but I realize me getting a bigger bonus is a smaller concern compared to idiotic Tariffs www.investopedia.com/terms/s/smoot-hawley-tariff-act.asp#:~:text=The%20Smoot%2DHawley%20Tariff%20Act%20of%201930%20raised%20U.S.%20import,U.S.%20and%20around%20the%20world. Economics 101, tariffs are a nightmare. Unless every single economist over the last 75 years is involved in a big conspiracy to make Trump look bad. I don't recall his name but during Trumps first term some lifelong small government conservative explained in depth how tariffs and trade wars are a nightmare and just make everyone poorer around the time Trump started promoting them..................he promptly got numerous death threats and Trump supporters even found his daughters Facebook and threatened to kill her as well. All for stating basic economics. Nobody complained about Biden's tariffs on China. And China don't play by the free market rules. They massively subsidize their industries to dump products on the global markets at below cost (to unfairly drive foreign competitors out and/or go bankrupt) and they do so while paying wages such that many of their people are actually forced to live in the very factories they work at (often under inhumane and dangerous working conditions). Their healthcare system is inhumane even by US standards, because their insurance co's don't always cover everything and when a worker does make a large claim, they can drop them permanently. So yeah, enjoy your cheap, virtually slave-labor, plastic junk from Walmart while it lasts. Also, China bullies & threatens all their neighbors, including our allies (like Taiwan) and even their own allies (like Russia), with false claims on their territory. Regardless, the factories will simply move to other places (Vietnam, Mexico, etc) where labor may not be quite as cheap, but cheap enough... or, if Musk gets his way, even cheaper labor here in the US with the use of state of the art robots.
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Post by sj on Nov 14, 2024 15:14:43 GMT -5
Well, after all that's already happened and everything that may or may not happen after he's sworn in, at least we can all say we were there when it happened and claim to have been on whatever side looks best at the particular time of explaining ourselves... That's right - who knows what rules might change after he's actually in the WH. It might be harder to qualify once he assumes the throne. I was only speaking to current circumstances. Another thing.. I was watching MSNBC (financial/stocks news) the day Trump was announced the winner and they reported bank stocks rising in the double digit percentages, so that could've been enough to return their balance sheets to black (temporarily?) and perhaps opened up more $'s for loans & mortgages. I've never worked in banking, so this is just one more theory.
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Post by sj on Nov 14, 2024 16:42:55 GMT -5
Me: Are workers still jumping out of Foxconn buildings in China?
Co-pilot (AI): There have been reports of workers at Foxconn threatening suicide or actually attempting it due to poor working conditions, low pay, and other grievances. For example, in 2010, there was a significant number of suicides at Foxconn's factories, which drew a lot of media attention and led to investigations and promises of improvements2.
More recently, there have been incidents where workers climbed onto rooftops to protest against pay cuts and other issues. Foxconn has taken some measures, such as installing suicide nets and requiring workers to sign "no suicide" pacts, but the underlying issues still seem to persist1.
It's a very concerning situation, and it highlights the need for better working conditions and mental health support for employees. What are your thoughts on this?
Me: Are the workers still committing suicide?
Co-pilot (AI): There have been recent reports of worker suicides at Foxconn, including incidents in 2024. The situation remains concerning, highlighting ongoing issues with working conditions and mental health support. It's a stark reminder of the human cost behind the production of our everyday electronics.
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Post by sj on Nov 14, 2024 16:45:21 GMT -5
This isn't happening in Vietnam or Mexico, as far as I've heard. Please stop standing up for cowardly CCP bastards who don't give a fuck about their own people, much less me or you. Thank you.
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Post by sj on Nov 14, 2024 17:38:21 GMT -5
Making Kamala president for the last month of Biden's term probably would have the desired effect (pissing off millions of Trump voters and Biden & family), but that'd also be like painting a target on her back. No doubt there are nuts out there who would think it's just deserts after the attempt was made on Trump twice.
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Post by sj on Nov 14, 2024 17:42:18 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Nov 18, 2024 10:17:18 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Nov 18, 2024 14:09:09 GMT -5
I'm not trying to absolve Republicans from their share of the blame, but whoever won would've taken blame for the shit that's down the road (thanks to decades of overspending and hawkish policies, eroding America's reputation on the world stage). Tough times ahead, especially for the poor.
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Post by sj on Nov 18, 2024 16:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by sj on Nov 18, 2024 16:28:59 GMT -5
Of course, no single action exists in a bubble.. one event leads to another. Russia brought North Korean troops into Ukraine to help them turn the tide. So they were a bit naive in thinking the US wouldn't up their ante.
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