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Post by Emig5m on Jan 22, 2020 12:56:45 GMT -5
Currently using it with a i7 6700k @ 4.4GHz but the i9 9900k is tapping me on the back while the 2080 Ti OC is staring me in the eye.
Unreal Tournament (the new Alpha) @ 1440p maxed be dipping down to 119fps in online action battles but GPU usage is only spiking at 32% which has me thinking that my CPU is bottlenecking my GPU at 1440p?
Of course, like usual, I would be also doubling ram from 16Gb to 32GB (in case you don't think 32GB is usable, I've crashed video editing software from editing over 1hr long 4k videos from running out of ram while doing a 'little' multi tasking - web browser open in the background, etc.)
What's your guys opinion? Yea, or Nea?
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 22, 2020 14:55:48 GMT -5
I would personally go for one of the new Ryzen chips. The 4000s series is coming out. The 3750 is a beast of a chip, if I was building a desktop I would go for that.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 22, 2020 14:57:33 GMT -5
I'm hoping to get a new laptop this summer. I am on a 2016 model so 4 years sounds about right.
Crazy tho is according to the steam hardware survey while plenty of people have way better CPUs then me not that many people in raw % of users have better then a 1070, its still like the 4th most popular card.
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 22, 2020 16:20:07 GMT -5
When I first got my chip it wouldn't overclock at all on the Gigabyte board, that board died right away so I got an Asus and it overclocked a measly 200Mhz stable on the original bios but as new bioses where released it got stable to 4.4Ghz so now I'm revisiting overclocking to try to maybe stretch this chip out a little more and currently doing some stress testing at 4.6Ghz in which it initially failed at 1.35v so I bumped it up to 1.37 and it passed the 15 test in RealBench. I think I'll try a 30min stress test before upping the clock speed to maybe 3.7Ghz or maybe just leave well enough alone? The neat thing about RealBench's stress test is that it also puts your GPU at 100% usage so you know you're also putting your power supply under the test as well, lol... I think if I can get 3.7Ghz stable I'll forget the 9900k for a while... I'm actually pretty happy to see 3.6Ghz since out of the box I couldn't overclock it for shit and thought I lost the silicone lottery bigtime but motherboard, BIOS, power supply, CPU cooler (I'm on a Noctua NH-D15 now), etc. really has a big impact on your OC potential.
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 23, 2020 13:00:26 GMT -5
Sadly it wasn't stable for the long haul even with 1.39v (seems like core #3 is the problem since when it crashes that core drops to 24% load) so back to my previous stable 4.4Ghz and default voltage which runs much cooler anyway. I wonder if de-lidding the CPU and replacing the thermal paste with something high quality would help core #3 or maybe not worth the hassle? Guess I'll have to live with 4.4Ghz for now... I hate the fact that every time I want to get a new CPU that a new motherboard is a mandatory purchase. I would be nice just to be able to plop a better CPU in the existing build for a change...
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Post by Coolverine on Feb 17, 2020 22:53:54 GMT -5
There's huge sales going on with the Ryzen CPU's right now, the Microcenter near me has the 3700X and the 3800X on sale for $279 and $299 respectively. They're also selling the 2700X for $139.
They had an open-box 3800X for $239 and I went to buy it, but they checked it before letting me and it was damaged plus had a ton of thermal paste all over it. They wouldn't let me buy it like that, but offered me a brand new one for the same price. I got an amazing deal on it, the 3800X is normally $399 even Amazon doesn't have it as cheap as Microcenter does, they want $339.
I recently got new motherboard, CPU and RAM and a new SSD. I've spent around $700 over the last weekend on it.
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Post by Emig5m on Jun 3, 2020 15:30:57 GMT -5
Was going to order a 9900k/10700k (or even 10900k) this week but they're out of stock everywhere I shop online so...maybe it's just a sign that my 6700k is still too legit, too legit to quit? I never had such confusion over wondering if it's time to upgrade my CPU or not... Sad that it seems like CPU progress has really came to a crawl.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 3, 2020 15:52:33 GMT -5
Was going to order a 9900k/10700k (or even 10900k) this week but they're out of stock everywhere I shop online so...maybe it's just a sign that my 6700k is still too legit, too legit to quit? I never had such confusion over wondering if it's time to upgrade my CPU or not... Sad that it seems like CPU progress has really came to a crawl. Intel has come to a crawl. AMD is firing on all cylinders right now. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket go for the highest Ryzen below Threadripper I think AMD Ryzen 9 3950X is the best money can buy. Now if you are crazy you can get a Threadripper but I doubt you would use it. I read a guy who was using a dual Xeon and it took 20 minutes for his science project at his college to compile, they dropped the $3,000 on a Threadripper and it dropped to 3 minutes when all 64 cores were at 95% usage. Its nuts. I'm still waiting on my new laptop to ship. Stupid coronavirus is making it get delayed.
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Post by Emig5m on Jun 3, 2020 16:11:05 GMT -5
Was going to order a 9900k/10700k (or even 10900k) this week but they're out of stock everywhere I shop online so...maybe it's just a sign that my 6700k is still too legit, too legit to quit? I never had such confusion over wondering if it's time to upgrade my CPU or not... Sad that it seems like CPU progress has really came to a crawl. Intel has come to a crawl. AMD is firing on all cylinders right now. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket go for the highest Ryzen below Threadripper I think AMD Ryzen 9 3950X is the best money can buy. Now if you are crazy you can get a Threadripper but I doubt you would use it. I read a guy who was using a dual Xeon and it took 20 minutes for his science project at his college to compile, they dropped the $3,000 on a Threadripper and it dropped to 3 minutes when all 64 cores were at 95% usage. Its nuts. I'm still waiting on my new laptop to ship. Stupid coronavirus is making it get delayed. I haven't had any problems with shipping so far during the corona virus pandemic. I thought Intel was bar-none the best at gaming performance since games like single core speed more than more cores? I'm totally not brand biased or against going AMD, I just want the best without going too nuts on price (since CPUs are like a pair of shoes, they're ultimately a throw-away item). Gaming and 4k video editing is my main jive with my PC. But playing maxed out at 1440p I think my 6700 OC'd to 4.4Ghz is still pretty strong. I don't care to play at 1080p and not drop below 240Hz so I feel like I'm on that fine line where I'm still good but at the same time I have this monster video card possibly running on regular unleaded. Time to research the Ryzen....
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Post by Emig5m on Jun 3, 2020 16:15:35 GMT -5
Honestly if I where you I would cancel the laptop and build a proper desktop. I tried the laptop route last winter and don't get me wrong, for a smaller foot print than a gaming console you can get some serious horsepower but it just doesn't compare to a desktop. Even when I was getting similar framerates the desktop didn't have as weighted of feel in the control and was much silkier feeling and the dips in framerates didn't drop down nearly as far and the fan noise is much louder on a laptop. The screens are too small too (I did use my 27" gaming monitor and 75" TV with it however but...) A desktop just runs so much better, less throttling, quieter, smooth as pie....I used them both side-by-side. It's like the desktop is a diesel freight train motor that can handle so much more load without bogging down and the laptop even with two more cores than my desktop felt like a Honda Civic with no torque for heavy lifting if that makes any sense...
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 3, 2020 16:18:56 GMT -5
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Post by Emig5m on Jun 3, 2020 16:41:52 GMT -5
For 4k video editing the Ryzen should do way better if the video editing program is properly multithreaded.Probably not... I'm just using the consumer version of Movie Studio Platinum. Not sure if the pro version is much different or not but I would have to research and dayum...only have so much time in one life...information overload era...lol
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Post by Coolverine on Jun 3, 2020 17:24:14 GMT -5
I hope some day those integrated CPU/GPU chips from AMD can be as powerful as a proper gaming rig. Probably still a ways to go for that, but what they have now isn't bad.
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Post by Emig5m on Jul 2, 2020 18:14:57 GMT -5
I was looking at a benchmark video of a 9900k @ around 5GHz with a 2080Ti in Jedi Fallen Order and it was pretty much identical to my 6700k @ 4.4Ghz with a 2080Ti (1440p Epic Settings). Also, the new version of Movie Studio (17) has full GPU acceleration and what took my CPU 23 minutes to render now only takes under 4 minutes (3.53 to be exact) to render offloading the work to my 2080Ti. I now feel less of a urge to upgrade now. I would do it for more game performance but playing at high res/high graphic setting seems to shift the load totally to the GPU and then it's like with full GPU support in my video editor even makes the CPU kind of moot. What am I going to do then? Unzip a file a second quicker? lol. Hmmm... The 10/k series is completely sold out or I might just fork out for a 10900k and test for myself but otherwise I think this CPU has lasted longer than any other CPU I've bought. Well I would have to dig out the receipt to my 2500k but I think in the end this 6700k is going to be the test of time winner for sure. I'm feeling like I wont need a new CPU until I get a new GPU but then if I get a 4k gaming monitor the CPU once again might be moot...lol.
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Post by Emig5m on Sept 10, 2020 21:12:04 GMT -5
So I got a 10850k, MSI Z490 mobo, and 32GB of DDR 3600 and what a joke - not even one frame per second more at 1440p! Definitely still GPU bound even with a 2080Ti! 15 days to return at Microcenter so I'll probably return everything. So it's actually the other way around, my 6700K deserves a better video card, lol.
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Post by ForRealTho on Sept 11, 2020 10:55:33 GMT -5
So I got a 10850k, MSI Z490 mobo, and 32GB of DDR 3600 and what a joke - not even one frame per second more at 1440p! Definitely still GPU bound even with a 2080Ti! 15 days to return at Microcenter so I'll probably return everything. So it's actually the other way around, my 6700K deserves a better video card, lol. So looks like you went from the 86th fastest to the 4th fastest: cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-10850K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/m1255865vs35021440p is nice but I'm content with 1080p. Like I remember going from 320x200 to 640x480 and even dropping to 512x384 for more FPS lol. I'm willing to be that your scores at 1080p would go up. Now in my case I got a pretty monumental leap in CPU performance: cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10875H/m34954vsm1111393Going from 360th to 59th is pretty substantial. 4 physical cores to 8. I could have got by just fine with the 6 core 10750h but I wanted my laptop to be more futureproof. Supposedly with the new consoles coming out games are going to be written with 8 cores in mind.
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Post by Emig5m on Sept 11, 2020 20:46:25 GMT -5
So I got a 10850k, MSI Z490 mobo, and 32GB of DDR 3600 and what a joke - not even one frame per second more at 1440p! Definitely still GPU bound even with a 2080Ti! 15 days to return at Microcenter so I'll probably return everything. So it's actually the other way around, my 6700K deserves a better video card, lol. So looks like you went from the 86th fastest to the 4th fastest: cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-10850K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/m1255865vs35021440p is nice but I'm content with 1080p. Like I remember going from 320x200 to 640x480 and even dropping to 512x384 for more FPS lol. I'm willing to be that your scores at 1080p would go up. Now in my case I got a pretty monumental leap in CPU performance: cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10875H/m34954vsm1111393Going from 360th to 59th is pretty substantial. 4 physical cores to 8. I could have got by just fine with the 6 core 10750h but I wanted my laptop to be more futureproof. Supposedly with the new consoles coming out games are going to be written with 8 cores in mind. No way in hell I can use 1080p anymore...looks way too blurry and chunky for realtime game rendering. For a 27" monitor 1440p is the sweet spot IMO and my 75" 4k is most certainly the sweet spot for image quality. I suppose if you're using your laptops smaller screen 1080p might suffice but definitely not on a 27". I was already playing at a locked 150fps in the latest UT online at 1440p with the 6700k which is the online framerate limit but not at "max detail". Upping the detail drops the framerates so the 6700k is definitely GPU bound at 1440p and up. Anyhow the bottom line is that the 2080 Ti isn't really all that if it holds back a six year old processor in modern resolutions and doesn't even come close to utilizing the power of a 10 core i9 with boost speeds over 5Ghz. The upcoming $1500 RTX 3090 probably will still be behind current CPUs. We'll see when I pick one up!
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