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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 10:36:27 GMT -5
The actual controversy regarding social media and free speech is when they censor/delete content that they disagree with for petty (non-legality) reasons or they get butt-hurt when they hear it (yet, doesn't break any laws), such as your example about Youtube deleting any videos and/or comments that even mention the word anorexia. YouTube doesn't delete anything with anorexia in it. It just demonetizes it as to not be promoting pro-ana stuff. In the last 2 years I heard from Republicans with Net Neutrality the government has no right at all to tell ISPs what to do because of "small government" and "free enterprise". I have also heard with Coronavirus lockdown the government has absolutely no right to tell the churches to close down as that is tyrany. Now because Twitter is fact checking Trump, not deleting his tweets, not censoring him in anyway, just fact checking Trump all the sudden the government has all these rights to tell private companies what to do. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. With all the leaks and the true nature of the internet having been exposed over the past two decades or so, it's naive to think that net neutrality even existed in the first place.
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Post by ForRealTho on May 30, 2020 12:11:59 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on May 30, 2020 12:14:47 GMT -5
You know when I was a kid in Alaska for a while it was trendy to prove how manly you were by not wearing a jacket. There are 9 month long winters up there so kids would walk around in December/January with no jacket and be like "look at me I am so tough". I always thought it was dumb.
That is what our president is projecting. This stupid "I am too tough for a mask" bullshit. Its elementary school macho bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 8:19:43 GMT -5
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Post by Cop on May 31, 2020 10:20:49 GMT -5
We can only hope everybody starts socially distancing themselves from that entire convention and nobody shows up... ...but then we are talking about Trump supporters, so yeah, they'll probably spit in eachother's mouths just to prove they're as dumb as he hopes they are...
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 1, 2020 20:16:40 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 2, 2020 9:52:50 GMT -5
Can you imagine the shitshow from the right if Obama used teargas to clear a path to a church so he could hold a bible upside down and backwards?
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 2, 2020 19:36:55 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 2, 2020 19:40:13 GMT -5
I highly doubt a bunch of people in Portland are going to go to NW Georgia......does anyone willingly wanna live in NW Georgia? lol
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 2, 2020 23:08:52 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 3, 2020 13:37:45 GMT -5
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Post by WedgieMan on Jun 3, 2020 21:15:27 GMT -5
I hope more comes out of the protests, but if anything, it is showing just how god damn incompetent and authoritarian Trump really is. Not that he hasn't demonstrated it before, but holy shit, even Bernie or Busters and some real libertarians are ready to vote for Biden now. It seems the line for them was threatening to sick the military on their own citizens.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 8:32:17 GMT -5
What's with leftists perpetual harping on this lie that Iraq didn't have WMD's - over, and over, and over again, even decades later? Thousands of Kurds (possibly 1 million+ according to one estimate I've read, but none really knows the exact body count) died in excruciating pain from these weapons. www.nytimes.com/2006/04/05/world/05iht-saddam.htmlIraq had WMD's in the form of chemical and biological weapons. However, they weren't able to use them on Americans until we sent our troops in. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndromeGWB's lie about Saddam's military capabilities had to do with how advanced (rather, primitive) Iraq's missile tech was. Saddam lacked the ability to hit the U.S. with chemical & bio-weapons and Americans weren't vulnerable to his attacks until we sent our troops there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 8:53:51 GMT -5
I hope more comes out of the protests, but if anything, it is showing just how god damn incompetent and authoritarian Trump really is. Not that he hasn't demonstrated it before, but holy shit, even Bernie or Busters and some real libertarians are ready to vote for Biden now. It seems the line for them was threatening to sick the military on their own citizens. Libertarians will mostly vote Libertarian (like they've always done). Moderates will mostly vote Trump again this coming election cycle. You see, we have something called the internet and smartphones, so word about what's really going on with these protests gets around. For example, I heard that three police officers (possibly more by now) were murdered on the streets in Dallas just last week (I heard about it from friends & family, who heard about it in local news). We have this vast communication network and people communicate, so people (with a social network beyond their own town/s) will see through the media's attempts to distort reality by framing the "protests" as peaceful. When we hear about the criminal acts (through local media and the like), it appears that these protests are a repeat of the LA riots but on larger scale (since it's going on multiple U.S. cities). I could name examples where Democrats actually used force and killed Americans. I could also point out that, in the past, they've exposed & experimented on Americans with STD's and radiation. Historically, Democrats lack moral high ground regarding use of force on their own citizens. Personally, I don't condone the use force on, experimenting on (torture), or killing of any law abiding humans (by either Republicans or Democrats). Point is, you can't turn a blind eye (much less support) such acts when somebody on your "team" does it, criticize your political opponent for threatening the same, and claim moral high ground. People should stick to their principles (if they've got any), rather than being cheerleaders for their team.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 4, 2020 10:07:43 GMT -5
Libertarians will mostly vote Libertarian (like they've always done). Moderates will mostly vote Trump again this coming election cycle. People should stick to their principles (if they've got any), rather than being cheerleaders for their team. I made friends with someone back in 2012 or so who was heavily into being "minarchist" he did not like the term Libertarian but basically was the same thing. I remember he supported Romney despite being an atheist who hated religion because Obama was "big government" and he thought government intervention in the economy was bad an being anti-religion he recognized Christianity used to be as totalitarian as the Soviet Union was at its peak and a threat to liberty. As 2016 rolled around I watched him become a Trump supporter because he viewed Hilary again as a proponent of big government and Trump supposedly was not. Also he recognized Trump had no use for religion and was just saying he did to get the religious right to support him. Despite me being a Bernie Bro in 2016 we remained friends and as Trump won the election he was elated that supposedly Trump would promote Libertarian ideals. It feels good to be on the winning team and he saw Trump as on his side. I have lost touch with this person and have no way to contact them but I would absolutely love to hear his opinion as a hard anti-theist and a minarchist Trump having the police clear a path so he can go hold a bible upside down and backwards, simply because he was called Bunker Boy and got his feelings hurt. Nothing screams "small government" more then that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 12:15:24 GMT -5
Libertarians will mostly vote Libertarian (like they've always done). Moderates will mostly vote Trump again this coming election cycle. People should stick to their principles (if they've got any), rather than being cheerleaders for their team. I made friends with someone back in 2012 or so who was heavily into being "minarchist" he did not like the term Libertarian but basically was the same thing. I remember he supported Romney despite being an atheist who hated religion because Obama was "big government" and he thought government intervention in the economy was bad an being anti-religion he recognized Christianity used to be as totalitarian as the Soviet Union was at its peak and a threat to liberty. As 2016 rolled around I watched him become a Trump supporter because he viewed Hilary again as a proponent of big government and Trump supposedly was not. Also he recognized Trump had no use for religion and was just saying he did to get the religious right to support him. Despite me being a Bernie Bro in 2016 we remained friends and as Trump won the election he was elated that supposedly Trump would promote Libertarian ideals. It feels good to be on the winning team and he saw Trump as on his side. I have lost touch with this person and have no way to contact them but I would absolutely love to hear his opinion as a hard anti-theist and a minarchist Trump having the police clear a path so he can go hold a bible upside down and backwards, simply because he was called Bunker Boy and got his feelings hurt. Nothing screams "small government" more then that. I'm aware. Trump's cheat-book for winning elections (by winning over middle America and the working class) copied from Rick Santorum's book... www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/rick-santorum-trumps-platform-actually-comes-from-my-bookHillary's no saint either (hey, you brought her up). Actually, in some ways, she's more Bush-like (especially, hawkish in regards to flexing our military might abroad) than Trump. Specifically, when it comes to waging wars in the middle east. She's on public record stating that she wanted to enforce a no fly zone over Syria (despite the Russian and Syrian flying their air forces there) and removing Bashar Hafez al-Assad from power. Such actions, tangling with the Russian air force, could've started WWIII. It wouldn't have been pretty either, since the Russian military (air force and navy) closely match the ability of ours (maybe even outmatch it in some instances).
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 4, 2020 15:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 4, 2020 17:53:52 GMT -5
"busloads of Antifa" is that like binders full of women? Lol
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 5, 2020 10:15:37 GMT -5
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Post by Cop on Jun 5, 2020 11:02:23 GMT -5
I love this BUNKER BITCH banner
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 12:45:58 GMT -5
"SovCits". I presume that's short for sovereign citizens. Yeah, they're nuts. But they have no power really, so why concern yourself with them.. What we have right now is big government socialism. Technically, even Trumpster is a big time socialist. I understand the lure to big govt because people feel that it provides security. But does it really? You have your big govt militarized police force that's just as likely to turn on its own people as protect them. Just look at the unrest & turmoil going in socialist countries, from Europe to North America... It's a massive cluster-fuck and they aren't able to maintain order, much less a civilized society (and even if they try, that only increases the unrest and escalates the violence). Or open a history book and read about how big government (both right and left leaning govt) is responsible for the mass genocide and global conflict/war, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of millions.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 5, 2020 12:51:08 GMT -5
Some nice person ripped it to YouTube lol
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 5, 2020 13:45:32 GMT -5
"SovCits". I presume that's short for sovereign citizens. Yeah, they're nuts. But they have no power really, so why concern yourself with them.. What we have right now is big government socialism. Technically, even Trumpster is a big time socialist. I understand the lure to big govt because people feel that it provides security. But does it really? You have your big govt militarized police force that's just as likely to turn on its own people as protect them. Just look at the unrest & turmoil going in socialist countries, from Europe to North America... It's a massive cluster-fuck and they aren't able to maintain order, much less a civilized society (and even if they try, that only increases the unrest and escalates the violence). Or open a history book and read about how big government (both right and left leaning govt) is responsible for the mass genocide and global conflict/war, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of millions. I like to watch them on YouTube because its entertaining. They claim the law doesn't apply to them but then cite sections of the constitution or funny enough the Magna Carta which is strange since this isn't 1200s England lol. As to big government I am a fan of the Nordic Model: www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/100714/nordic-model-pros-and-cons.asp
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 14:10:19 GMT -5
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/defund-police/612682/Lowering crime levels while defunding the police is quite a conundrum. The problem with her solution is that our society already offers those things and, although it helps to some degree, it doesn't solve the problem completely (not even close). Yes, there already exists massive social programs to help drug users in this country and even if you don't have money, they don't cost you a thing. I know because I've had a family member with these problems and we've looked into it. Also, both drug users and criminals tend to avoid using these programs and would rather continue their lives on the same path (again, speaking from experience and observing their choices when they're offered help). And no, despite what the movies (like "Requiem for a Dream") tell you, they don't throw drug users in prison for simply using drugs... you have to commit some crime or accident (resulting from being under the influence) that physically or financially harms others before they resort to that level of punishment. Even if you wreck your car and damage public property, as long as nobody else is injured, you only get one night in jail. However, they do take away their licenses. Point being, you don't get lengthy prison time unless you've committed serious crime/s (i.e. these are the ppl she's telling us to let loose). I don't know what a realistic solution would look like. Maybe stop glorifying violence in media, sports, movies, and games would be a start. Of course, there's big money being made by corporate America in those things, so it won't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 14:22:36 GMT -5
"SovCits". I presume that's short for sovereign citizens. Yeah, they're nuts. But they have no power really, so why concern yourself with them.. What we have right now is big government socialism. Technically, even Trumpster is a big time socialist. I understand the lure to big govt because people feel that it provides security. But does it really? You have your big govt militarized police force that's just as likely to turn on its own people as protect them. Just look at the unrest & turmoil going in socialist countries, from Europe to North America... It's a massive cluster-fuck and they aren't able to maintain order, much less a civilized society (and even if they try, that only increases the unrest and escalates the violence). Or open a history book and read about how big government (both right and left leaning govt) is responsible for the mass genocide and global conflict/war, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of millions. I like to watch them on YouTube because its entertaining. They claim the law doesn't apply to them but then cite sections of the constitution or funny enough the Magna Carta which is strange since this isn't 1200s England lol. As to big government I am a fan of the Nordic Model: www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/100714/nordic-model-pros-and-cons.aspJust to be clear, I'm not opposed to government. Just saying that checks and balances are important (state's rights are important... without it, Trumpster might override governors of states and implement martial law)... think about that for a moment. Also, big government can mean different things to different people. I'm cautious about concentrated power in a general sense, because absolute power corrupts absolutely (regardless of your politics). I'm ok with sufficient funding for social safety nets though. However, regs & checks also need to be in place to ensure that people aren't abusing the system.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 5, 2020 15:34:55 GMT -5
They are the legit government of Western Australia. For real tho! lol
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 5, 2020 15:39:57 GMT -5
This is crazy. That guy is 6'10" and apparently was an American pro basketball player, went through a nasty divorce. He ended up playing basketball in Australia and I dunno somehow fell in with those SovCits? Wow. They must have got to him when he was at an emotional/financial lowpoint or something.
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Post by WedgieMan on Jun 5, 2020 19:08:56 GMT -5
"busloads of Antifa" is that like binders full of women? Lol I wonder if they used the same buses that brought in those millions of illegals that voted for Hillary. lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 21:01:19 GMT -5
"busloads of Antifa" is that like binders full of women? Lol I wonder if they used the same buses that brought in those millions of illegals that voted for Hillary. lol Obviously, there's more to this story or the story is fabricated. The police don't have the time or resources to chase every rumor that pops up on the internet.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 5, 2020 21:04:18 GMT -5
Obviously, there's more to this story or the story is fabricated. The police don't have the time or resources to chase every rumor that pops up on the internet. It was a fake Antifa twitter account run by a white supremacist organization. It caused them to shut down roads and send a helicopter. This is the fake tweet in question. Its such a ridiculous caricature of what someone would say Antifa says: It just went from there.
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