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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 13:37:47 GMT -5
Also you can use Nvidia Inspector to force on certain features on an Optimus setup such as Adaptive Vsync. Thankfully I am on a gsync panel so I don't even bother. I verified that this works. Using "Nvidia Inspector" to set the framerate cap overrides the nerfed 30fps (of an unplugged laptop with Optimus drivers). Also, it lets you access features, such as other Vsync options (fast sync, adaptive sync), that are otherwise missing from the gimped Optimus drivers.
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Post by Ambience on Jan 23, 2018 12:14:23 GMT -5
I upgraded my video card a couple of months ago (Looking at current prices and avalability, it was probably a good thing I did!) I haven't upgraded my Mobo/CPU/Drive since about 2008-2009, so I'm running a core 2 duo. After getting the evil eye from Assassin's Creed Origins, I realized it was time to finally spend some money and get better production out of my new video card. So I'm doing a board/CPU/RAM/SSD swap and my parts are arriving today!
ASRock Z370 Killer SLI/ac LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z370 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard Intel Core i5-8400 Coffee Lake 6-Core 2.8 GHz (4.0 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 65W BX80684I58400 Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630 SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-75E500B/AM Team T-Force DARK 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Memory (Desktop Memory) Model TDGED416G3000HC16CDC01
I also picked up Windows 10 for the box, I've been running 7 for awhile now and 10 didn't like my old hardware. $790 after tax and shipping...All said not too bad, I'm looking forward to transferring my disk today and the rest of the hardware tomorrow.
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Post by Emig5m on Jan 23, 2018 17:11:02 GMT -5
It's like where do they get the names for these chips from? Coffee Lake? Why not Sperm Reservoir? And I notice that you mentioned that you upgraded your video card but didn't mention the model?
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Post by Coolverine on Jan 23, 2018 17:34:02 GMT -5
I am planning on upgrading to AMD Ryzen, but they say the Ryzen 2's are just on the horizon so I'm gonna wait for those.
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Post by Ambience on Jan 23, 2018 17:38:37 GMT -5
It's like where do they get the names for these chips from? Coffee Lake? Why not Sperm Reservoir? And I notice that you mentioned that you upgraded your video card but didn't mention the model? It's a 1060 -- EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SSC DT GAMING, 06G-P4-6265-KR Currently unavailable from most places not carrying a $800 price tag....freaking bitcoin miners.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 23, 2018 18:55:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 20:30:38 GMT -5
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Post by itsnoot on Jan 23, 2018 23:30:27 GMT -5
Interesting this came up. My son and I have been playing Destiny exclusively - me on 7700K/GTX970 and him on 4700K/GTX960. I was suffering some noticeable frame rate drops on the newer rig, particularly when the game would load new areas. It was getting annoying enough I tested the game on the 2nd rig - absolutely flawless. 60FPS on lock, not even a single dip at recommended settings.
After much tinkering and testing I've finally figured out the 7700K is throttling. That wouldn't be so bad if I was overclocking but this is at stock speeds! Temps never register on hwmonitor higher than 60ish Fahrenheit so I'm at a total loss why this is happening.
What I do know is Destiny hits all 8 cores on the i7, which I've never seen a game do. At some point I'm going to turn off hyper threading and see if it makes a difference. One thing that seems to have helped is running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. All I did was open it and save a profile at stock settings. As long as I have it open the game seems to behave itself. Not discounting the possibility I'm imagining things, I have no idea what that thing does behind the scenes.
It's not so bad I stop playing and do hard testing though. Once I get some definitive answers I'll post it up over at Bungie tech support.
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Post by Babel-17 on Jan 24, 2018 1:09:47 GMT -5
Interesting this came up. My son and I have been playing Destiny exclusively - me on 7700K/GTX970 and him on 4700K/GTX960. I was suffering some noticeable frame rate drops on the newer rig, particularly when the game would load new areas. It was getting annoying enough I tested the game on the 2nd rig - absolutely flawless. 60FPS on lock, not even a single dip at recommended settings. After much tinkering and testing I've finally figured out the 7700K is throttling. That wouldn't be so bad if I was overclocking but this is at stock speeds! Temps never register on hwmonitor higher than 60ish Fahrenheit so I'm at a total loss why this is happening. What I do know is Destiny hits all 8 cores on the i7, which I've never seen a game do. At some point I'm going to turn off hyper threading and see if it makes a difference. One thing that seems to have helped is running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. All I did was open it and save a profile at stock settings. As long as I have it open the game seems to behave itself. Not discounting the possibility I'm imagining things, I have no idea what that thing does behind the scenes. It's not so bad I stop playing and do hard testing though. Once I get some definitive answers I'll post it up over at Bungie tech support. I guess it's possible your power settings could be doing this, and Intel's utility is overriding that. Control Panel - Power Options. Either set it to Performance under Advanced Options, or go into your default settings and adjust the ones for the cpu. Though it's somewhat weird to get serious throttling from any of the settings.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jan 24, 2018 2:15:44 GMT -5
Interesting this came up. My son and I have been playing Destiny exclusively - me on 7700K/GTX970 and him on 4700K/GTX960. I was suffering some noticeable frame rate drops on the newer rig, particularly when the game would load new areas. It was getting annoying enough I tested the game on the 2nd rig - absolutely flawless. 60FPS on lock, not even a single dip at recommended settings. After much tinkering and testing I've finally figured out the 7700K is throttling. That wouldn't be so bad if I was overclocking but this is at stock speeds! Temps never register on hwmonitor higher than 60ish Fahrenheit so I'm at a total loss why this is happening. What I do know is Destiny hits all 8 cores on the i7, which I've never seen a game do. At some point I'm going to turn off hyper threading and see if it makes a difference. One thing that seems to have helped is running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. All I did was open it and save a profile at stock settings. As long as I have it open the game seems to behave itself. Not discounting the possibility I'm imagining things, I have no idea what that thing does behind the scenes. It's not so bad I stop playing and do hard testing though. Once I get some definitive answers I'll post it up over at Bungie tech support. Check fullscreen vs borderless fullscreen? Also in the properties try messing with high dpi scaling and disable fullscreen optimizations?
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Post by Coolverine on Jan 25, 2018 20:26:01 GMT -5
Started having trouble with my PC not booting up, if I reset the CMOS it will boot up but it's annoying to keep having to do that after I turn it off. I was thinking it could be because I have mixed RAM, but I took out some of it and it still wouldn't boot. When it's all in and my PC boots up, it all appears and works so I don't think that's the problem.
I'm thinking it could be the CMOS battery or the power supply, luckily I do have a spare 850W power supply I can try.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a recent Windows update that caused this to start happening though.
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Post by Ambience on Jan 26, 2018 10:11:06 GMT -5
Started having trouble with my PC not booting up, if I reset the CMOS it will boot up but it's annoying to keep having to do that after I turn it off. I was thinking it could be because I have mixed RAM, but I took out some of it and it still wouldn't boot. When it's all in and my PC boots up, it all appears and works so I don't think that's the problem. I'm thinking it could be the CMOS battery or the power supply, luckily I do have a spare 850W power supply I can try. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a recent Windows update that caused this to start happening though. You're all over the place with your troubleshooting. A few questions to ask, when you power down your computer do you remove power completely to the system? As in completely disconnect the power cord, or have some sort of power switch on your surge protector? If so, then your CMOS battery isn't maintaining the memory on the board. If you are having to go to CMOS without power interruption to the board, it would be the battery and your power supply together. It's not unheard of for these to fail both at the same time (especially if your motherboard is 8+ years old), but not likely. Any electrical storms in your area lately? If the only thing to change since this problem is your windows updates, there is a possibility it's screwing with something...especially the latest security patch that digs into how the OS handles your CPU. I'd recommend doing a restore point prior to the patch and seeing what happens over the next couple of days.
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Post by Coolverine on Jan 26, 2018 20:32:53 GMT -5
I have it hooked up to a UPS so it does have power connected while it's off. Even when I was using just a surge protector I never switched it off.
Everything except the videocard is 5 years old, the videocard's almost 1 year old.
There haven't been any storms with lightning for a while, last time there was one and the power went out, the UPS kicked in and everything stayed on. I've looked at the event log for the UPS (has its own software) and there have been quite a few outages over time but the battery backup prevented it from going off.
A friend of mine had a very similar issue with his PC not booting up. Turned out that the boot from USB feature in the BIOS settings was causing it to try to boot off of his USB headset, after he disabled it in the BIOS the issue stopped. I made sure in the BIOS settings that nothing's set to boot from USB so I'll see if that resolves the issue. If not, then I'll try changing out the CMOS battery and also swapping out the PSU.
I'll be upgrading in April, just waiting on the next gen Ryzen CPU's. Gonna replace motherboard, CPU and RAM.
*edit* Replaced battery and swapped out the PSU, issue still not resolved. If I turn it on it will boot up after several minutes but always with a message saying that BIOS settings were defaulted. Guess I'll just have to keep using it like this until I upgrade in April.
Gonna switch to MicroATX motherboard and case when I upgrade too. I would get Mini ITX but they only have one PCI-E slot for the videocard and I'd want to keep using my Soundblaster Z with the speakers I have now. Most of the mini-ITX boards I've looked at don't have outputs for multichannel audio unless you use the HDMI output, which my sound system doesn't have.
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Post by itsnoot on Jan 28, 2018 15:47:07 GMT -5
I'm narrowing down the issue. Two BIOS settings seem to make a big difference. Processor IccMAX (set to max 255.5) and AVX Ratio Offset (I set mine to 3). The biggest difference came from the first. The Intel Extreme Tuning Utility appears to set IccMax to max just by having the program open. I also see in that utility Thermal, Power Limit and Current Limit throttling are all set to "No" which probably doesn't hurt either. It wasn't until I started to tweak the AVX offset that I realized Destiny 2 uses AVX instructions, which I know cooks processors under heavy loads. I set my offset to use the non-turbo clock (45x - 3 = 42x).
All of this has made a tremendous difference in game play. After these fixes the only place I have identified a regular and predictable stutter is in the boss fight for the Inverted Spire right before the Stage 2 transition. Still need to try disabling hyper-threading but I'd prefer to not rely on that. Handbrake m'kay?
Edit - Still not done learning apparently. The entries in the Intel utility for Thermal Throttling, Power Limit Throttling, Currently Limit Throttling, and Motherboard VR Thermal Throttling are monitoring entries. I have set the history graph to record all of those while I use the machine. So far, nothing.
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Post by Coolverine on Feb 2, 2018 23:06:17 GMT -5
Out with the old, in with the new. My MSI board finally stopped booting all together so I went ahead replaced it with an AM4 mATX board, Ryzen 7 1700 and 16 gigs of DDR4 (bundle deal). I haven't used an AMD processor since 2011 or 2012, last processor I had from them was a Phenom II quad-core. One thing I always did like about AMD is they are always backwards compatible with their own sockets, not like Intel where they change their sockets the way that Apple changes their iPhone charging ports. In fact, the Phenom II X4 CPU I used up until 2012 was designed for AM3 but worked in my AM2+ motherboard from 2005. They say their upcoming Zen+ CPU's will be compatible with AM4 too. So far so good, I didn't even have to reinstall Windows 10. Upon firing it up for the first time, it recognized all the new hardware and everything works. Even tried a few games, runs perfectly. Only problem I've run into is that my Soundblaster Z software is not detecting the soundcard but the sound is working 100%. Might just have to reinstall the drivers and software for it, but first I'm gonna install all of the drivers for the motherboard and see if that fixes it. I might get an mATX case for a smaller build too. Thinking maybe this one: www.lian-li.com/en/dt-portfolio/pc-v351/ <- Unfortunately seems to be discontinued, but it's one of the few mATX cube cases I can find that has an external drive bay. Also I've had 2 other Lian Li cases (gave one to a friend) and they are awesome. or this one: www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-air-240-high-airflow-micro-atx-and-mini-itx-pc-case <- Seems like a great case but doesn't have an external drive bay either. or: www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002559 <- Leaning more towards this one since it has 5 expansion slots instead of 4, but also no external drive bay. *edit* Also very impressed with this CPU (and motherboard and RAM) so far, can't wait to see what else it can do. Last time I played Civ 6 on my Core i5 3570, the game I had saved would take a long time to end a turn, on this CPU it seems to end the turns MUCH faster. Also was able to fix soundcard issue by reinstalling the drivers/software.
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Post by Emig5m on Feb 5, 2018 14:44:41 GMT -5
I did some fairly expensive upgrading for being laid off work for the winter lol... ($700 monitor, $70 mouse, $120 keyboard, $300 speakers) Must stop spending money.... must stop spending money....
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Post by Coolverine on Feb 5, 2018 21:49:36 GMT -5
This new motherboard I got has one of those slots for an M.2 SSD, thinking about getting a 1TB one when they go down in price a little.
*edit* So this is my setup now (updated 6/16):
Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Ryzen 7 1700 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4 EVGA GTX 1070 SC 8GB Crucial M4 256GB SSD Crucial MX500 1TB M.2 SSD Seagate 2TB HDD Samsung blu-ray reader + dvd writer Lian Li PC-9F case Corsair AX850 PSU Soundblaster Z Logitech Z-5500 5.1 speakers Sony MDR-V6 headphones APC NS-1080 battery backup
*edit* I have noticed improved performance in DOOM and Wolfenstein II after upgrading to the Ryzen 7 and DDR4 RAM (compared to my old setup anyway). Even Fallout 4 runs smoother with all settings maxed, including view distances.
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Post by Coolverine on Jun 15, 2018 23:09:03 GMT -5
Update: Got an M.2 SSD (1TB). A local place had a Crucial one for $205 which seemed like a great deal (last I checked several months ago, the lowest price for one was $300-$400), so I went for it. It's really a good idea to make sure of compatibility first, but IME Crucial products have always had great compatibility with a wide range of stuff. It does show up as compatible with my motherboard on Crucial's website. Moved some games over to it from both my primary install drive (SSD) and my hard drive, including a couple of 70GB games, it's pretty fast.
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Post by ForRealTho on Jun 16, 2018 9:00:22 GMT -5
This laptop has a 75 hz screen that "overclocks" to 100 hz so thats how I am running it.
I found a tutorial and it takes less then 5 minutes and 4 screws to swap the screens on this laptop. Been seeing if I can find a 144 hz panel that will fit.
Would be nice to upgrade but buyer beware. Apparently a lot of the panel manufacturers mislabel their products so you get the panel in the mail and it doesn't fit.
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